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Oden was bleeding a little, obviously he wasn't as badly effected by it as Kaido was tho.
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One Piece Discussion Thread Sixteen Return to Sabaody Archipelago
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1.Oden was bleeding a little bit but immediately got back up.
2.Primebeard took Oden seriously.
3 Primebeard was serious (Not as fully serious as when he clashed against Roger tho) when clashing with Oden.
4.Kaido is clearly not invincible and can be killed, Oden was literally about to kill him in the past and Roger and Primebeard could either way kill Present Kaido if they were alive in the present.
5.If old and sick Whitebeard is 6-B, then Oden should be clearly 6-B as he was clashing with him during Whitebeard's prime.
2.Primebeard took Oden seriously.
3 Primebeard was serious (Not as fully serious as when he clashed against Roger tho) when clashing with Oden.
4.Kaido is clearly not invincible and can be killed, Oden was literally about to kill him in the past and Roger and Primebeard could either way kill Present Kaido if they were alive in the present.
5.If old and sick Whitebeard is 6-B, then Oden should be clearly 6-B as he was clashing with him during Whitebeard's prime.
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@Fix - Enough.
1) Oden was bleeding and sustained injuries. What more do you need, sweetie?
2-5) No idea what you're referring to.
6) I'm not even complicating Kaido's character. We see him fight a single time, therefore his abilities are completely unknown to the viewer. Now calm yourself. >_>
1) Oden was bleeding and sustained injuries. What more do you need, sweetie?
2-5) No idea what you're referring to.
6) I'm not even complicating Kaido's character. We see him fight a single time, therefore his abilities are completely unknown to the viewer. Now calm yourself. >_>
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The fact that people are trying to argue that Oden scales to current Kaido is absolute nonsense.
We have seen Oden facing someone Tier 6-B. He got roflstomped.
Oden cannot scale to 6-B because he got casually oneshot by a non-haki infused attack from a 6-B.
Cin is simply objectively right here
We have seen Oden facing someone Tier 6-B. He got roflstomped.
Oden cannot scale to 6-B because he got casually oneshot by a non-haki infused attack from a 6-B.
Cin is simply objectively right here
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Primebeard and Roger are the peak of power at the moment, but i doubt Prime Oden was far below them. Conscidering that the dying Husk of what used to be the man that rivaled Roger was yonko level, i dont have any issues with Oden scaling to 6-B. He is a legend after all.
And you also have to make the case that Kaido got significantly more powerful than he did against oden, which we only know he got significantly more powerful from the god valley incident to the present time.
And you also have to make the case that Kaido got significantly more powerful than he did against oden, which we only know he got significantly more powerful from the god valley incident to the present time.
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Not at all. Prime Oden's right after Roger and Primebeard. We don't know how much stronger Kaido is than he was in the past. But Oden's prime was when he was with Roger's crew and I dunno why it's so hard for some to take that he's that strong. His introduction and the description we were given about him when he was young already implied that Oden was not normal in any way, literally the Hercules of Wano.
He literally took a attack from ROGER, bled a little bit and immediately got back up and that wasn't even Oden's prime. He also clashed with Prime Whitebeard and old and sick Whitebeard is 6-B, so how is Oden who clashed with him during Whitebeard's prime not 6-B which wasn't even Prime Oden?
One-shoted by who?
He literally took a attack from ROGER, bled a little bit and immediately got back up and that wasn't even Oden's prime. He also clashed with Prime Whitebeard and old and sick Whitebeard is 6-B, so how is Oden who clashed with him during Whitebeard's prime not 6-B which wasn't even Prime Oden?
One-shoted by who?
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Filled with lies here.Xulrev said:
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Dr fix seems to be arguing that Oden has higher AP but Lower durability than Oden and Roger and is thus still weaker or at best equal overall.
I guess not every character has the same AP to durability ratio but I'm not really sure how much evidence there is for Oden being some sort of glass cannon.
I guess not every character has the same AP to durability ratio but I'm not really sure how much evidence there is for Oden being some sort of glass cannon.
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Also fun fact: At the time of his fight with Oden, Kaido would likely be only a few years younger than Aokiji was pre-timeskip.
Also it was stated Oden was several times stronger when he came back than when he left.
IMO Roger, WB, Garp and Oden (and maybe Rocks) are all around the same level and could all beat each other on a given day. And I personally think the 4 of them are a tier above the current yonkos and could probably mid to maybe high diff any of them.
Also it was stated Oden was several times stronger when he came back than when he left.
IMO Roger, WB, Garp and Oden (and maybe Rocks) are all around the same level and could all beat each other on a given day. And I personally think the 4 of them are a tier above the current yonkos and could probably mid to maybe high diff any of them.
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I thought sanji was gonna do something in the wano arc but then i saw the fight with katakuri and then I saw luffy get one shotted by kaido. then dolflamingo kaido and big mom join forces and I then realized that luffy is gonna get some dubs while boa hancock gets her secret found out and she dies.
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One Piece has to be the only verse I've seen that has so many problems with a character's "Prime" power.
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Yeah like people yell about prime whitebeard like he is the second coming of christ.
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Its ight is just that one piece is difficult to talk about in the way this wiki scales it and that causes so many heated debate's
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No..I lost my cool a year or two ago when everyone got downgraded from tier 6 and up. Onyl way I'm participating in AP upgrades for OP is because I thought discussing top tier like Yonko would be so much easierDr.Fix said:@Astral & @Banana Thanks for keepig cooler heads
But apparently it's not even when we have feats right in front of our face to scale with ƒñªÔÇìÔÖ鴩ŃñªÔÇìÔÖ鴩ŃñªÔÇìÔÖé´©Å
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This wiki kinda gives on going old manga a Really hard time one piece is a prime example.
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Yeah kinda forgot about that for a second XD
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That's the exact opposite. His name was so feared that the WG had to erase everything about his existance.
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void century is weird to talk about since the concept is kinda covered since oda wants to troll us.
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its also bad since in that part of history its likely people like whitebeard and big mom dont know much about since roger is the only known person to know why its forbidden.
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well actually considering whitebeard was a admiral he might have known somthing before he got samwiched by 5000 soldiers.
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THAT WOULD BE kinda neat i mean we could get a series on what blackbeard or maybe even hancock but i feel like it would only work for the people that arent in the main conversation so a series on blackbeard or shanks would be pretty cool to see.
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Personally a spin off focusing on Gold D. Roger would be neat too.
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I don't think odd is really on that concept because of oden vs Kaido I the Wano arc is about to end so hmm.
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That would be awesome!Stefano4444 said:
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