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One Piece Chapter 1026: "The Pivotal Clash" (Official Release)

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Zoro was knocked out by the Thunder Bagua because he was already severely wounded and tired. Remember he stopped (for a second) a Yonko combo attack which broke quite a lot of his bones, kept on attacking Prometheus after receiving all these injuries so as to stall him, and then he used every bit of strength he had left at that point to scar Kaido with Ashura (along with deflecting an attack from Kaido). After all that then he got Thunder Bagua'd.
 
Heck it's pretty impressive that Zoro survived that Thunder Bagua even after all that. Also Law took the Thunder Bagua directly and wasn't knocked out unlike Pre Udon Luffy, so that's also really impressive.
 
You really missed a lot of the fight if you think Zoro was taken down by a single Thunder Bagua.

Do people forget what one-shot means?
The one other attack he blocked was a combined attack from Kaido and Big mom for just an instant , note that that instant was heavily emphasized in the manga. And that already broke his bones. Note that Zoro didn't tank it, but blocked it for an instant. For Relativistic+ to FTL characters like the One Piece character an instant could be less than a fraction of a nanosecond.

THEN afterwards the moment Kaido landed a direct blow on his body, it was a one shot that insantly sent Zoro out of combat.
 
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Heck it's pretty impressive that Zoro survived that Thunder Bagua even after all that. Also Law took the Thunder Bagua directly and wasn't knocked out unlike Pre Udon Luffy, so that's also really impressive.
It was implied that Kaido landed the Thunder bagua on G4 Luffy's head instead of body given how blood was all over his head and how his teeth broke after TB landed.

Also you have to account for the fact that Kaido hit Zoro with the TB first before Law got hit by it too, meaning that the impact was already weakened by the time the attack hit him.
 
Zoro was knocked out by the Thunder Bagua because he was already severely wounded and tired. Remember he stopped (for a second) a Yonko combo attack which broke quite a lot of his bones, kept on attacking Prometheus after receiving all these injuries so as to stall him, and then he used every bit of strength he had left at that point to scar Kaido with Ashura (along with deflecting an attack from Kaido). After all that then he got Thunder Bagua'd.
I doubt it was a second, because an instant for Relativistic+ to FTL characters like them an instant could very well be a nanosecond if anything. Also if you think about it the combo attack is pretty much just twice the attack damage of a single Kaido's attack, but with a shorter impact time which Zoro didn't tank but block. The total damage was quite possibly similar to a single Yonko attack but with twice the amount of contact time on him.
 
Kaido and Big Mom were expecting to wipe all five Supernovae out with that attack. Zoro blocked it just long enough for Law to get them out of the way (Something he apparently couldn't do without the extra time). Later, he used the last of his strength to scar Kaido and it was after that, that he got KO'd by a Thunder Bagua
 
Kaido and Big Mom were expecting to wipe all five Supernovae out with that attack. Zoro blocked it just long enough for Law to get them out of the way (Something he apparently couldn't do without the extra time). Later, he used the last of his strength to scar Kaido and it was after that, that he got KO'd by a Thunder Bagua
Taking heavy damage and subsequent AP seems to have zero correlation with OP characters. You can be one inch away from death and still deal damage as high as your peak AP when you are still fresh.

Doesn't change the fact that TB still oneshotted him.
 
It "one shotted" him when he was basically half dead already. I don't know what definition of "one shotted" you ascribe to but I'd bet it's not popular among the people here
Half dead by Kaido's own hands nonetheless.
Heck we don't even know if fresh Zoro wouldn't get KO'ed by a single TB regardless of the amount of damage he took before that hit seeing how it KO'ed Luffy everytime it got a direct blow on his body.
 
By a combo attack. Not by Kaido's own hands
A combo attack that he blocked for a mere instant and also 50% contributed by Kaido. Gotta love how people always just ignore the fact that it was an INSTANT that he blocked the attack and he already broke his own bones doing so.

We don't even know if fresh Zoro wouldn't get KO'ed by a single TB regardless of the amount of damage he took before that hit seeing how it KO'ed Luffy everytime it got a direct blow on his body. But seeing how Luffy's durability who was > Zoro's got KO'ed every time Kaido landed a direct blow on his body , it is only logical to assume the same for Zoro.
 
Also if anything it was implied that a 2x Yonko combo attack is all it needs to KO all 5 of the rooftop SNs. Simple math woudl suggest that a 1x attack from a Yonko would KO 2.5x rooftop SN on its own if unblocked, which made sense seeing how one attack from Kaido instantly put Zoro and Law out of combat right after he one-shotted Luffy.
 
Gotta love how people always just ignore the fact that it was an INSTANT that he blocked the attack
It was still an impressive showing of near Yonko level durability. The attack was nearly instantaneous even for the supernovae i.e. the attack speed would have blitzed them. The fact that Zoro held it back even for an instant is impressive
 
Also if anything it was implied that a 2x Yonko combo attack is all it needs to KO all 5 of the rooftop SNs. Simple math woudl suggest that a 1x attack from a Yonko would KO 2.5x rooftop SN on its own if unblocked, which made sense seeing how one attack from Kaido instantly put Zoro and Law out of combat right after he one-shotted Luffy.
Combo attacks don't scale linearly. The Supernovae could handle individual attacks but would have been blitzed by the combo attack
 
It was still an impressive showing of near Yonko level durability. The attack was nearly instantaneous even for the supernovae i.e. the attack speed would have blitzed them. The fact that Zoro held it back even for an instant is remarkable
It was instantaneous even when relative to a bunch of Relativistic+ characters, meaning the attack Zoro barely blocked was possibly less than a nanosecond.
 
It was instantaneous even when relative to a bunch of Relativistic+ characters, meaning the attack Zoro barely blocked was possibly less than a nanosecond.
The time scale is irrelevant. A super strong, super fast attack is not reduced by the fact that it acts on a small timescale. The important takeaway is that Zoro matched the power level of a combo Yonko attack for an instant, albeit enduring massive amount of damage in the process
 
Combo attacks don't scale linearly. The Supernovae could handle individual attacks but would have been blitzed by the combo attack
First part of the sentence doesn't make sense by Logic seeing that attack was a clear 1+1 = 2.

The attack was an AoE, meaning that it wouldn't have mattered regardless of their combat speed. The only person's reaction speed who would matter would be Law's reaction speed, which was already Relativistic+.

The fact that it was an instant even by Relativistic+ characters' standard already means that Zoro only blocked it for a nanosecond like I said.
 
The time scale is irrelevant. A super strong, super fast attack is not reduced by the fact that it is super fast. The important takeaway is that Zoro matched the power level of a combo Yonko attack for an instant, albeit enduring massive amount of damage in the process
If the time scale was irrelevant, it would not have been emphasized by Oda.

Eitherways simple powerscaling would tell you that Kaido would have been able to oneshot Zoro with a clean unblocked blow regardless of the damage Zoro tanked seeing how one single Ragnarok KO'ed Luffy in a one shot, and Luffy is more durable than Zoro.
 
Not stated or implied anywhere

Time scale is irrelevant because Zoro matched the power level for an instant
Same goes for you. It was not stated or implied anywhere that combo attack doesn't scale linearly. If anything it is on YOU to proof that the combo attack doesn't scale linearly.

He didn't match it. The attack tore through the field with no resistance akin to how KKG tore through Doffy's sixteen holy bullets like it was spaghetti.
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All he did was barely slow it down for an instant.

Wait...are you implying that Zoro is Yonko level in power?
 
Eitherways simple powerscaling would tell you that Kaido would have been able to oneshot Zoro with a clean unblocked blow regardless of the damage Zoro tanked seeing how one single Ragnarok KO'ed Luffy in a one shot, and Luffy is more durable than Zoro.
Ragnarok is likely > Thunder Bagua though
 
Ragnarok is likely > Thunder Bagua though
Which was still ample evidence that Yonko >>> Yonko Commander seeing how Yonko attacks already oneshot Yonko Commander + characters (Luffy was Yonko Commander +) while the Yonko tanked Yonko Commander and Yonko Commander + attacks for 40 chapters straight without even needing to block with barely noticeable injuries without even needing to recover in between fights.
 
All I'm saying is that he should scale. Mainly because he has the feats to back it up
And a fully recovered Zoro is now fighting King who is a YC1, and I have already proven that Yonko >>> Yonko Commanders in power. It is clear via matchup portrayal that Zoro is meant to be YC1 in terms of power currently.

Only his strongest attack Asura could scale to damaging Kaido, and that is his ulti.

If anything the only one that truly scales in this fight are Luffy and Yamato who literally 1v1'ed Kaido for an extended period of time, something Zoro would not have been able to do given how Kaido can one shot him while tank Zoro's strongest attack with just a permanent scar.
 
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I have already proven that Yonko >>> Yonko Commanders in power.
You haven't. You have made that claim which no one has really agreed to

Kaido can one shot him
He literally didn't one shot Zoro, because Zoro was basically already down when Kaido hit him with Thunder Bagua. Furthermore, he also didn't actually one shot Luffy with Ragnarok because that was his combo finisher. Kaido blitzed and overwhelmed Luffy to the point that he was unprepared to defend against Ragnarok
 
You haven't. You have made that claim which no one has really agreed to


He literally didn't one shot Zoro, because Zoro was basically already down when Kaido hit him with Thunder Bagua. Furthermore, he also didn't actually one shot Luffy with Ragnarok because that was his combo finisher. Kaido blitzed and overwhelmed Luffy to the point that he was unprepared to defend against Ragnarok
Only because you completely avoided engaging my argument in post #147 :
There is ample evidence that Yonko >>> Yonko Commander seeing how Yonko attacks already oneshot Yonko Commander + characters (Luffy was Yonko Commander +) while the Yonko tanked Yonko Commander and Yonko Commander + attacks for 40 chapters straight without even needing to block with barely noticeable injuries without even needing to recover in between fights.

Furthermore, he also didn't actually one shot Luffy with Ragnarok because that was his combo finisher. Kaido blitzed and overwhelmed Luffy to the point that he was unprepared to defend against Ragnarok

You really are reaching now...aren't you? Ragnarok oneshotted Luffy the moment it landed on him, that is a fact. There is also no evidence to suggest that Kaido wouldn't be able to one-shot a fresh Zoro the moment his attack lands clean on him because Luffy > Zoro in durability and Kaido's Ragnarok one-shotted Luffy. Combo attack was to set up for the oneshot Ragnarok kill, which instantly one-shotted Luffy. That's the difference in power between a Yonko and a Yonko Commander : A Yonko like Kaido can tank Yonko Commander level hits for 40 chapters straight without needing to block them, while a Yonko Commander can only barely block a Yonko's attack, otherwise the Yonko's attack one shots him.
 
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We've seen Kaido dodge attacks from both Luffy and Zoro in the rooftop fight
He tanked their most powerful attacks without any life-threatening injuries, alongside 30+ other Yonko Commander level attacks. Dodging a few hits don't mean much in the grand scheme of the whole combat when he already tanked their most powerful barrages and 30 + other YC level attacks and is still in absolute fighting capability without even needing recoveries in between,
 
This back and forth about Zoro's feat is ridiculous. Zoro's feat is impressive and could only be done by top tiers, doesn't matter if it's for an instant, or for a second, he managed to talk through it too, so I don't know why this is being argued.


Furthermore, "one shot" does not apply to characters that are half dead, period. You have little to no proof that Thunder Bagua would One Shot a fully healthy Zoro, so saying "TB one shot Zoro" bears no weight given the conditions that lead to this fact.
 
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