Yet you set up here and tried to said yammy was above ulq based on ranks. Now your just being dishonest at this point.
I agree the ranks base on spirit power rather than AP. Even masked stated base yammy had the highest raw power of the espada
No i didn't? I've never within this debate said Yammy is stronger than Ulquiorra
because he's the 0 Espada, you're actually just lying now, we can get into my reasoning behind why Yammy is above Ulquiorra if you want but don't be dishonest and claim something i never said.
Concession Accepted on that point then? also i don't remember the databooks saying Base Yammy had the highest raw power of all the Espada, i do remember a statement about Yammy having the highest destructive power with his fist but that was clearly referencing Res Yammy, so if you have that scan then please post it.
You do know majority of the espada think that a higher rank means higher power/ap right? Even the captains think the same thing. That obviously implies ranks in general relate to ap.
That doesn't debunk anything.... appealing to generalities isn't usable in this instance since i'm claiming Nnoitra's an outlier to such rules, you need to debunk the evidence I've asserted before making this appeal. Something you haven't actually down yet, at least haven't done intellectually yet.
How was he off guard? She charged him directly.
Given his facial reaction to Nel cutting him implies he was off-guard, this is supported by the fact Nel wasn't able to damage Nnoitra nearly as much with equal power to even higher power attacks like Cero Doble and Lanzador Verde.
But honestly this point doesn't matter since again, Base Nnoitra isn't scaleable to Res Nnoitra.
Yeah I will break down how ap works in bleach since im talking to a 3 year old. Kenapchi cutt nnortira because he used a lot more power behind his swings rather than using his casual swings. Kenpachi could cutt yammu but that doesn't mean hes above him ap. Characters in bleach can output attacks many times higher their own durability. You got causal attacks which are equal to ttheir own durability. Then you have strong attacks which are thier full power swings ect. Kenpachi didn't dare try to tank yammys cause he knew it would **** him up. With nnoritas cero he smacked that shit like nothing. Which shows a massive difference in their power. With this bird brain logic masked ichigo scales above base aizen,isshin scales above condom aizen because they hurt. Even tho both isshin and ichigo admitted they didnt scale to aizen.
Also CEIN verbatim stated yammys giant form was the strongest powed in HM except aizen,His own power,Vl and ulq. Nnoritra was never mention. When cein first encountered kepachi he said he was nnorira level. And later when kenapachi got massively amped he said he's above starrk.
In Cfyow kenpachi said grimmjow surpassed nnortira. And guess what? That same grimmjow is stated inferior to barrgan many times. So your claims of nnoritora scaling above yammy isn't supported by feats or narrative.
Kenpachi is above Yammy interms of AP, just not for cutting him, but rather scaling to Res Nnoitra who has higher AP then Res Yammy. While Bleach characters can output attacks many times above their regular durability this doesn't mean in general one's durability needs to be relative towards their AP to actually tank the the opposite force of their attack, Newton's Third Law exist in Bleach goober. Kenpachi directly tanked Yammy's attacks which is visually shown by Kenpachi..... tanking Yammy's punches.... have you actually read Bleach before?, also you're assuming that Kenpachi dodged Yammy's attacks was because they'd heavily damage him/one shot him, which is complete headcanon and something you can't actually prove to be objectively true nor prove why it would require less assumptions compared to the opposing claim. That was base Nnoitra Reio.... not Res, stop conflating the two, yeah it shows a massive difference in power for BASE NNOITRA AND RES YAMMY NOT RES NNOITRA AND RES YAMMY.
Scans for any of this? or you just gonna keep claiming shit without evidence.
That was referencing a PRIME Baraggan, not Esapda Arc Baraggan, there's a massive difference between both versions of this character.
Show the scan mf cause in the db it implies it's just his base like in the manga
You deadass grabbed the wrong scan..... bruh, i'll grab the scan later since i don't have it on me atm.
It's relevant a fatigued bankai ichigo took multiple blows and block multiple attacks from base nnoritira. Like I proved earlier nnoritoras ap scales to his durability which means ichigo is relative to his base even while fatigued. And ulq is several tiers above this ichigo
Reio.... that was BASE NNOITRA, not RES NNOITRA, there's a massive difference between these versions
It's general 5 to 10x and via occams razor it's a greater assumption to say it's above that marker. Unless you prove nnori is above that which you haven't
It wouldn't since we have feats that prove it wouldn't, and i have already proven why Nnoitra is above that marker in my previous post, something you haven't actually argued intellectually against.
I ******* despise talking to you.
