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Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)

Wankbreaker said:
does he know about Tsukihime and Kagetsu tohya?

also, the h stuff has been cut out of dies irae, for over a decade at this point.
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Yes IK wankbroken I know but unlike Fate, Tsukihime and KT's h scenes can be removed and nothing would change in the story unlike HF where the story is really wonky without it. Doesn't change the fact that KNk and Notes and Mahoyo and DDD do not have h scenes anyways and also that H scenes are terrible as a concept and from a writing perspective
 
TheSilverKing14 said:
Yes IK wankbroken I know but unlike Fate, Tsukihime and KT's h scenes can be removed and nothing would change in the story unlike HF where the story is really wonky without it. Doesn't change the fact that KNk and Notes and Mahoyo and DDD do not have h scenes anyways and also that H scenes are terrible as a concept and from a writing perspective
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Still, Dies Irae’s completed version with all of the routes and such has 0 h-content. It’s about as much of an eroge as something like mahoyo.

Shinza has expansive lore that works better without the h-scenes than it does with.
Product of 1990’s to 2000’s otaku culture, if you weren’t an established developer, if your game didn’t include at least some h-content….. good luck selling any copies lol
 
TheSilverKing14 said:
also that H scenes are terrible as a concept and from a writing perspective
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eh. I wouldn't say that it's terrible, just not needed in most stories, and done poorly in others. I wouldn't put any in any of my current writing projects, (there's no place for it, and it would be really forced, seeing as I mainly do action and I have no experience, so it would be either really unrealistic or a "fast forward") but that doesn't make it bad when someone who can write it well actually does it well.
 
Wankbreaker said:
Still, Dies Irae’s completed version with all of the routes and such has 0 h-content. It’s about as much of an eroge as something like mahoyo.

Shinza has expansive lore that works better without the h-scenes than it does with.
Product of 1990’s to 2000’s otaku culture, if you weren’t an established developer, if your game didn’t include at least some h-content….. good luck selling any copies lol
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Alright that's fair I'll admit that much and Shonen Jump is superior to hack vn writers because they do not need such lowly mugs as h scenes and also same with seinen manga like Monster and 20th century boys and Umineko (one of the rare VN's besides Clannad and Narcissu that has no hscenes even at release and works better without it) etc.
 
KingNanaya said:
eh. I wouldn't say that it's terrible, just not needed in most stories, and done poorly in others. I wouldn't put any in any of my current writing projects, (there's no place for it, and it would be really forced, seeing as I mainly do action and I have no experience, so it would be either really unrealistic or a "fast forward") but that doesn't make it bad when someone who can write it well actually does it well.
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I dislike the entire concept as a whole as it is really trival and appeals to lowest common denominator.
 
TheSilverKing14 said:
I dislike it being publically shown want to show it? show them having kids easy solution and no i am not the second group I am indifferent to it as a whole.
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You could also just have them making out and then cut to the next day or a few hours later with them naked in a bed or putting some clothes on and anyone with a brain (that's not stuck at 9 or has a child innocence) can infer what happened or just say later they did it. However some authors really do kind of see such stuff in an artistic light, (not saying that's what was going on here with Fate or Dies Irae). I came across an interview for some series, where an author on a manga was praising the animators on artistic feels of such scenes and describing it so passionately, I just couldn't help and laugh at that, and honestly didn't feel like he was BSing when he was saying that.
 
TheSilverKing14 said:
Alright that's fair I'll admit that much and Shonen Jump is superior to hack vn writers because they do not need such lowly mugs as h scenes and also same with seinen manga like Monster and 20th century boys and Umineko (one of the rare VN's besides Clannad and Narcissu that has no hscenes even at release and works better without it) etc.
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one of the best vns ever, if you liked the grisly atmosphere of the OG Tsukihime, you’ll like it. Yea Masada is known for its op characters,but that only happens in the later stages of the last 2 routes, it’s pretty grounded for the most part otherwise.
 
Wankbreaker said:
Azaka is the true ultimate one.
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TheSilverKing14 said:
Yes IK wankbroken I know but unlike Fate, Tsukihime and KT's h scenes can be removed and nothing would change in the story unlike HF where the story is really wonky without it. Doesn't change the fact that KNk and Notes and Mahoyo and DDD do not have h scenes anyways and also that H scenes are terrible as a concept and from a writing perspective
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HF without the H-scenes is perfectly fine
 
A small crumb of dark six information gained from the lost TM BBS boards

ほんきのこ > kagamiさん ＞正確に言うと、the dark sixはアルクより古いです。情報はほんとにここまで！ (2/17(土)2:19)> > ほんきのこ > 志貴の実の妹かあ……姉とかいないのかー、と武内くんはよくつっこんでくるのですが、「いません」とヒラリマントでかわす毎日です。 (2/17(土)2:16)> > > ほんきのこ > kagamiさん＞the dark sixはまだ誕生していません（にやり）。とまあ、あとは秘密のあっこちゃんですよ?。 (2/17(土)2:14)> > ほんきのこ > Ｂ４６さん＞その方向で企画書を通しています。あとは、きのこと武内くんのがんばりしだい。 (2/17(土)2:13)
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honkinoko > Mr. Kagami ＞ To be precise, the dark six is older than Arcueid. This is as much information as you'll get! (February 17 (Saturday) 2:19)
honkinoko > Shiki's real younger sister, huh... Takeuchi often quips, "Doesn't he have an older sister?" but I always dodge it daily with a cape flourish, saying "No, he doesn't." (February 17 (Saturday) 2:16)
honkinoko > Mr. Kagami ＞ The dark six hasn't been born yet (grin). Well, that's a secret for now! (February 17 (Saturday) 2:14)
honkinoko > B46 > We've passed the proposal in that direction. The rest depends on the efforts of kinoko and Takeuchi. (February 17 (Saturday) 2:13)
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kagami > the dark sixとアルクェイドには関係があるのでしょうか？アルクェイドが産まれた頃、もう前者はいなかったと思いますが＞きのこさん (2/17(土)2:13)> > ほんきのこ > kagamiさん＞the dark sixはまだ誕生していません（にやり）。とまあ、あとは秘密のあっこちゃんですよ?。 (2/17(土)2:14)>
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kagami > Is there a connection between the dark six and Arcueid? When Arcueid was born, I don't think the former existed anymore. > Kinoko-san (February 17 (Saturday) 2:13)

honkinoko > kagami-san ＞ The dark six hasn't been born yet (grin). Well, that's a secret for now! (February 17 (Saturday) 2:14)
 
Talking negatively about Dies Irae for its h-scenes doesn't make much sense anymore when Masada himself went out with a new Amantes Amentes version that had all hscenes cut with extra stuff added, same for Kajiri Kamui Kagura with Akebono no Hikari.

Sure, if you find h-scenes uncomfortable; it's fine but I personally wouldn't comment on DI because of it just because of those as mentioned above. However I'll admit, h-scenes themselves didn't add much to the VN (as most barely do), a few of them were okay-ish but it being blackscreened or an allusion to it (which Amantes Amentes does sometimes anyway) would've been better for the Acta est Fabula version.
 
oh right, curious on the thoughts on Fate S/R. playing it rn and I am enjoying it a lot. (Especially since it's easy on my power-scaling brain, I wanna watch Fgo's plot since I know that's considered good. But uh Fate GO gives my power scaling brain a headache.)
 
TheSilverKing14 said:
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NVM: LOL Wankbroken omitting context is nothing leave it to him to omit
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Aren’t you omitting context? Also if you’ve read HF, you’d know that’s not what the grail looks like.

This is a temporary pathway created by the grail,but not the grail itself. We know from fate/visual story that it can do this, this isn’t new.

 
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