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Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)

Wankbreaker said:
Did she?

I thought the entire point was to find the anchor ( footprint) because they couldnt beat her in a direct fight
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Not when Ciel was in her third form; btw Ascension 3 Ciel is Ciel herself and not an alternate personality or anything of the like; it's her temporarily boosting herself.

Ciel was also heavily nerfed overall it seems.

Gift_Clarion: –
The extremely rare talent to ■■■■■■. A department within the Church described it as being ‘blessed with the birth of an angel’. Conversely, a certain mage dismissed it as nothing more than an innate defect.
This ability is absent in FGO.
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『Seventh Holy Scripture: Death by Original Sin』
Rank: A+
Type: Anti-Unit Noble Phantasm
Range: 20-99
Maximum Targets: 1 person

Code: Original Sin.
By restoring one part of the Seventh Space Holy Scripture to its original form, Ciel transforms it into a colossal arched crossbow and unleashes a singular, devastating shot. One that halts Principles.

Its sheer destructive power (the ability to break through spacetime) is said to be capable of piercing a planet. However, outside the Sapphire Galaxy, it has been scaled down to conventional levels.
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So servant Ciel is more or less levels above Arcueid as a servant
 
LamentSatanael said:
Not when Ciel was in her third form; btw Ascension 3 Ciel is Ciel herself and not an alternate personality or anything of the like; it's her temporarily boosting herself.

Ciel was also heavily nerfed overall it seems.





So servant Ciel is more or less levels above Arcueid as a servant
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Normal Archtype > Moon cancer Ciel > Moon Cancer Arcueid?
 
LamentSatanael said:
Not when Ciel was in her third form; btw Ascension 3 Ciel is Ciel herself and not an alternate personality or anything of the like; it's her temporarily boosting herself.

Ciel was also heavily nerfed overall it seems.





So servant Ciel is more or less levels above Arcueid as a servant
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Im re-reading the event and it seems like she was just testing them, really, at least ascension 3 was

the end also seems like she unanchored/running out of mana, causing her to be de-summoned?
 
Wankbreaker said:
Im re-reading the event and it seems like she was just testing them, really, at least ascension 3 was
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Ciel herself was holding back and was nerfed down to conventional levels it seems, and then she claims she can handle Arcueid fine on a 1v1 after she gets to their third SG which boosts her powers and when she figures out it's Ascension 3— no not exactly testing them.
All Archetype Ascension 3 seeked was to fight with them at the very least; Archetype Ascension 1 is unfeeling and would moon drop at them almost at the very beginning; Ascension 3 gave them a prep time (plot armour) of 3 hours.
 
Violatas said:
Was there really a need to make the 1-A Root removal thread staff only? Think things like that should have more verse supporter involvement

Agree with the removal though
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I kept it staff only as to bottleneck derailing, though there are 5 staff who say they are interested in hearing out the supporters, it would be pretty easy to ask them... like way easier than anyone thinks, lmao.
 
Wankbreaker said:
I kept it staff only as to bottleneck derailing, though there are 5 staff who say they are interested in hearing out the supporters, it would be pretty easy to ask them... like way easier than anyone thinks, lmao.
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Ah fair then. Tbf though most staff straight up don't reply to messages on their walls/or just ignores them. Happened to me too now and then.
But if they're waiting on responses this time then ah well
 
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Shouldn't vlov be above 5-B? Even a small-time vampire with Idea Blood can take down a planet.
Moreover, Idea Blood is said to be a singularity where mere blood circulation is enough to change the physical laws of the planet.
Fezzih_007 said:
I was doing a Vlov profile, but i noticed that my knowlegement about Nasuverse is kinda lacking so I kinda leave behind.
Can someone say if is good or bad?
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Vlov Arkhangel

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Unqver said:
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Shouldn't vlov be above 5-B? Even a small-time vampire with Idea Blood can take down a planet.
Moreover, Idea Blood is said to be a singularity where mere blood circulation is enough to change the physical laws of the planet.
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It’s talking about opposing the planet’s laws,not taking down an actual planet
 
Wankbreaker said:
It’s talking about opposing the planet’s laws,not taking down an actual planet
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But True Ancestors is the planet's doppelganger. According to Mario, vlov is enough to kill low-level True Ancestors. The Church has dealt with True Ancestors many times and has many records of repelling them, but only two records of IX level vampires.
 
Unqver said:
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Shouldn't vlov be above 5-B? Even a small-time vampire with Idea Blood can take down a planet.
Moreover, Idea Blood is said to be a singularity where mere blood circulation is enough to change the physical laws of the planet.
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I think it would be a outlier tbh, like there's not enough supporting feats for planet level already, and this statement seems a little vague.
So I din't consider it, since I doubt it would be accepted;
 
Fezzih_007 said:
I think it would be a outlier tbh, like there's not enough supporting feats for planet level already, and this statement seems a little vague.
So I din't consider it, since I doubt it would be accepted;
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As I said above, True Ancestors = the doppelganger of the planet, but the lower level True Ancestors are not as powerful as vlov.
 
Unqver said:
But True Ancestors is the planet's doppelganger. According to Mario, vlov is enough to kill low-level True Ancestors. The Church has dealt with True Ancestors many times and has many records of repelling them, but only two records of IX level vampires.
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True Ancestors dont scale to the planet, they just use some of its resources.

Only Arcueid can actually use all of it
 
Wankbreaker said:
True Ancestors dont scale to the planet, they just use some of its resources.

Only Arcueid can actually use all of it
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If it's just earth, that's true, because only Arcueid has become a giant of light with the same mass as earth, but anyway, earth doesn't seem to be a normal planet in Nasu.
 
Robo432343 said:
i like how the only person whose actually willing to defend the 1-A root arguments doesn't even have permission to post in that thread
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thats kinda a shitty excuse when 5 staff will essentially let anyone on, as long as they can make a coherent argument.

Literally all you have to do is say " Can i get permission? I plan to respond here"
 
TheSilverKing14 said:
I spoke facts fate fans cannot defend there stuff if they tried tbh.
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Look, I can accept Arcueid > Saber, I can even accept Ciel > Sakura, but nobody, and I mean NOBODY, will ever claim that Akiha > Rin while I'm still breathing! You're making me go anime mode lil bro, my power level is over 9,000, you don't want the smoke...:cool:
 
MasqueTLDF said:
Look, I can accept Arcueid > Saber, I can even accept Ciel > Sakura, but nobody, and I mean NOBODY, will ever claim that Akiha > Rin while I'm still breathing! You're making me go anime mode lil bro, my power level is over 9,000, you don't want the smoke...:cool:
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Akiha is better Rin is a manipulative a hole who screams like a kindergarderner and is a much more shallow and generic wahman compared to an inetresting outlier like Akiha. There, I said it.
 
Unqver said:
But True Ancestors is the planet's doppelganger. According to Mario, vlov is enough to kill low-level True Ancestors. The Church has dealt with True Ancestors many times and has many records of repelling them, but only two records of IX level vampires.
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True Ancestors are an experiment to create a "planet's doppelganger" (Or Alter Ego, as its called).
All pure True Ancestors with the exception of Arcueid have been failures. Only two beings have ever held the Brunestud title, Arc and Alt, a Dead Apostle + True Ancestor hybrid.
Even Arcueid isn't technically complete as she has not truly awoken as Brunesteud of the Crimson Moon's terminal, even if she has his Reality Marble through Marble Phantasm, and because Altrouge exists and "there can be only one" Ultimate One/Type.

Unqver said:
If it's just earth, that's true, because only Arcueid has become a giant of light with the same mass as earth, but anyway, earth doesn't seem to be a normal planet in Nasu.
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Yes, Earth is a "weak-ass" dying planet. The entire reason for the Ultimate Ones coming to Earth is because "it screamed" it needed help / was dying...
 
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Unqver said:
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Shouldn't vlov be above 5-B? Even a small-time vampire with Idea Blood can take down a planet.
Moreover, Idea Blood is said to be a singularity where mere blood circulation is enough to change the physical laws of the planet.
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A rank 7 DA Van Fem was compared to a Divine spirit in strange fake (DAA's aren't rank 9 in FSF)
 
Unqver said:
But True Ancestors is the planet's doppelganger. According to Mario, vlov is enough to kill low-level True Ancestors. The Church has dealt with True Ancestors many times and has many records of repelling them, but only two records of IX level vampires.
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Not all, only the True Ancestor royalty so to speak. But again, the church has fended off True Ancestor royalties other than Altrouge and Arcueid in remake so 🤷‍♂️
 
LamentSatanael said:
A rank 7 DA Van Fem was compared to a Divine spirit in strange fake (DAA's aren't rank 9 in FSF)
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The newest adventures volume also has a rank 7 fate world van-fem (who is also out of his prime) block rhongo with a single punch from his golem
 
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