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Damn, the root finds more ways to be mudded


全ての元である渦の中で、閃く稲いな光びかりのように発生する何らかの方向性。〝……をする〟という意味づけが流れて、その流れに適った物質を象り、時としてソレは人間になる。始まりの因で発生した物事の方向性というのかな。根源の渦という混沌で生じた〝……をする〟〝……をしなければならない〟という衝動。結局、全てのカタチあるものがそうであるように仕組んでいる絶対命令。この混沌衝動をね、魔術では起源という。"In the swirl that is the source of everything, a certain directionality emerges like flashes of lightning. A meaning of 'to do...' flows, shaping matter that aligns with this flow, and sometimes it becomes human. It's like the directionality of things that originated from the fundamental cause. An impulse of 'must do...' or 'have to do...' that arises from the primordial chaos of the Swirl of The Root. Ultimately, it's an absolute command that orchestrates everything, just like all things that have form. In magecraft, this chaotic impulse is called the 'Origin.'"

Source is KNK part 7, btw
 
Not all, only the True Ancestor royalty so to speak. But again, the church has fended off True Ancestor royalties other than Altrouge and Arcueid in remake so 🤷‍♂️
No, the True Ancestors are not as powerful as the Class IX vampires. Five Class IX vampires are enough to put Arcueid in a desperate situation.
 
Damn, the root finds more ways to be mudded
全ての元である渦の中で、閃く稲いな光びかりのように発生する何らかの方向性。〝……をする〟という意味づけが流れて、その流れに適った物質を象り、時としてソレは人間になる。始まりの因で発生した物事の方向性というのかな。根源の渦という混沌で生じた〝……をする〟〝……をしなければならない〟という衝動。結局、全てのカタチあるものがそうであるように仕組んでいる絶対命令。この混沌衝動をね、魔術では起源という。"In the swirl that is the source of everything, a certain directionality emerges like flashes of lightning. A meaning of 'to do...' flows, shaping matter that aligns with this flow, and sometimes it becomes human. It's like the directionality of things that originated from the fundamental cause. An impulse of 'must do...' or 'have to do...' that arises from the primordial chaos of the Swirl of The Root. Ultimately, it's an absolute command that orchestrates everything, just like all things that have form. In magecraft, this chaotic impulse is called the 'Origin.'"

Source is KNK part 7, btw
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why did you send this
 
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why did you send this
An impulse of 'must do...' or 'have to do...' that arises from the primordial chaos of the Swirl of The Root.
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Scáthach-Skadi:
Unlike my Norse mythology's dualistic worldview, other religions tend to think of the early stages of existence as primordial chaos.

Scáthach-Skadi:
They saw it as a writhing, seething mass of everything in the world all mixed together–land, water, heat, cold, good, evil, and so on–thereby harboring limitless possibilities.
 
Ah, I realized that (という) is TLed as (known as) or (that is)
so the more correct sentence would be
An impulse of 'must do...' or 'have to do...' that arises from the primordial chaos that is the Swirl of The Root.
 
No, the True Ancestors are not as powerful as the Class IX vampires. Five Class IX vampires are enough to put Arcueid in a desperate situation.
That was only Ciel herself, the rest of the 6 rank 9 Dead Apostle Ancestors did not do anything and were merely there to spectate.
 
That was only Ciel herself, the rest of the 6 rank 9 Dead Apostle Ancestors did not do anything and were merely there to spectate.
 あの儀式はほとんどが成功していた。
 アルクェイドはわたしの手に落ち、あと少しで彼女を丸呑みにできるところだった。
 なのに、
 呼ばれもしないのに現れた六人目が、あっさり天秤をひっくり返した。
 そうして、わたしは殺された。
No, ciel is incapable of facing Arcueid and the coming Altrluge.
Arcueid also admitted that she was afraid of some of the IX-order vampire alliances.
 
 あの儀式はほとんどが成功していた。
 アルクェイドはわたしの手に落ち、あと少しで彼女を丸呑みにできるところだった。
 なのに、
 呼ばれもしないのに現れた六人目が、あっさり天秤をひっくり返した。
 そうして、わたしは殺された。
No, ciel is incapable of facing Arcueid and the coming Altrluge.
Arcueid also admitted that she was afraid of some of the IX-order vampire alliances.
And roa's positioning is really low now. Arcueid thinks that roa's concentration is not as good as vlov's. He also deletes the description that he killed the remaining True Ancestors, which becomes Arcueid's crazy killing.
 
 あの儀式はほとんどが成功していた。
 アルクェイドはわたしの手に落ち、あと少しで彼女を丸呑みにできるところだった。
 なのに、
 呼ばれもしないのに現れた六人目が、あっさり天秤をひっくり返した。
 そうして、わたしは殺された。
No, ciel is incapable of facing Arcueid and the coming Altrluge.
Arcueid also admitted that she was afraid of some of the IX-order vampire alliances.
And roa's positioning is really low now. Arcueid thinks that roa's concentration is not as good as vlov's. He also deletes the description that he killed the remaining True Ancestors, which becomes Arcueid's crazy killing.
None of that speculation of "Roa's position is low so he can't do anything to Arcueid" remotely changes any of the facts at hand.
Ciel: "I could say the same to you.
The fear you felt as you were helplessly brought to your knees still hasn't left you, has it?"```

Arcueid: "Oh, you've done it now, Quinze."
The same quote you threw in literally said this lol
あの儀式はほとんどが成功していた。
 アルクェイドはわたしの手に落ち、あと少しで彼女を丸呑みにできるところだった。


Arcueid falls neatly into my grasp. Given just a little more time, I'd be able to devour her.
Quite evident here who the seventh guest is.
Meanwhile when using the "seventh guest", he uses 'us' specifically whereas for other statements, it's a single perspective and first-person statement.
As in the rest of the DAAs; Arcueid was someone RoaElesia handled herself with prep; not to mention in Remake we know Roa gets stronger per incarnation and RoaElesia was him at his strongest; stronger than the original body (Which Arcueid still required the help of Burial Agency to handle).

It's not like Altrouge came alongside right after Arcueid; the French Incident went on for as long as 3-5 days. The timeline is simple — Arcueid arrives with the Crimson Moon, RoaElesia with prep 1v1's Arcueid; she was in the process of being devoured for Roa's 'sixth ritual', Altrouge came in and beat off the other DAAs hence "easily tipped scales against us" since she came there with an intent to ruin the ritual hence uninvited guest, she did something which made Arcueid escape from Roa's clutches, stole her hair (Arcueid had her hair in a CG right before the french incident unlike OG) and left, Arcueid meanwhile killed Roa whilst in the process of everything about the ritual going awry.

But it is undeniable Ciel beat Arcueid in a 1v1; she wouldn't brag about it to piss off Arcueid either if it wasn't 1v1 in the aforementioned quote and Arcueid would point out that she had outside help instead of getting pissed off like that + Vlov was outright there in French incident alongside the other Dead Apostle Ancestors (They were probably busy handling Altrouge) and Arcueid made it clear the hotel's the first time she met/saw him.
 
“ I don’t want to write counterarguments” is not an excuse
It becomes a valid excuse when everything is intentionally made to be overly bureaucratic. That is just using power to prevent the layman from criticizing your opinion.
I doubt any of those discussion threads with downgrades would have gone through if you allowed people with actual knowledge of the series to comment freely, rather than locking it towards only neutral staff with little or no knowledge of the series.
 
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