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I don't see any taunt tho...
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Open your third eye, you'll see it, perhaps...I don't see any taunt tho...
the guy apparently was shittalking me off-site, at least what i heard from another userI swear, why the meaningless taunt? The guy was civil all the way.
I think everyone shit-talk others, it's human to do so, don't take it too personally.the guy apparently was shittalking me off-site, at least what i heard from another user
it wasnt really a taunt though, just that anyone who says (this debunk is so bad!!! and later tries to challenge me on it off site either ends up losing, straight up conceding, or refusing to debate any further after a certain point.)
Sure, thats understandable. It's just that you have no right to call someone else's scaling "bad", if you cant argue as to why.I think everyone shit-talk others, it's human to do so, don't take it too personally.
I mean, I wouldn't see it as conceding, personally, just that it's tiresome to do back and forth. Both of you have very specific ways of seeing things and none would budge, backing away isn't conceding in this case, it's just not wanting to lose more time.
Ultimately, everyone is free to have any opinions they want, no one has the absolute truth on the work they are scaling.
Making fun of you? What makes you think that? I could refute every argument you mentioned until dawn, but I guess I don't have as much free time as you do. You have never been able to refute me in front of me, don't get such a perceptionthe guy apparently was shittalking me off-site, at least what i heard from another user
it wasnt really a taunt though, just that anyone who says (this debunk is so bad!!! and later tries to challenge me on it off site either ends up losing, straight up conceding, or refusing to debate any further after a certain point.)
its all the same 5 arguments anyway.
I don't think he's smart enough to understand that after what he just saidI think everyone shit-talk others, it's human to do so, don't take it too personally.
I mean, I wouldn't see it as conceding, personally, just that it's tiresome to do back and forth. Both of you have very specific ways of seeing things and none would budge, backing away isn't conceding in this case, it's just not wanting to lose more time.
Ultimately, everyone is free to have any opinions they want, no one has the absolute truth on the work they are scaling.
You know... attacking his "intelligence" isn't what I would call "civil".I don't think he's smart enough to understand that after what he just said
I am not any of those three things you mentioned. People think that just by looking at this wiki, the character has been completely debunked. It is necessary to disagree about this because you have never been able to refute anything in my eyes. Try again with someone who knows less about itthis debunk is so bad!!! and later tries to challenge me on it off site either ends up losing, straight up conceding, or refusing to debate any further after a certain point.)
I am aware of this, but I can't say that I care too much, at least I can continue to keep a civilized attitude, as you call itYou know... attacking his "intelligence" isn't what I would call "civil".
Just go on with whatever you wish to do, you have no obligation to think about him or interact with him, you're making yourself look bad with nothing to gain.
I don't know what you meanI'm not gonna lie, even when I was yapping against YouTube shorts powerscalers, I didn't had enough high esteem in my capabilities compared to you
I came to know in the server FATE was her btwYou know... attacking his "intelligence" isn't what I would call "civil".
Just go on with whatever you wish to do, you have no obligation to think about him or interact with him, you're making yourself look bad with nothing to gain.
because you're like a brick wall.It is necessary to disagree about this because you have never been able to refute anything in my eyes. Try again with someone who knows less about it
Try again with someone who knows less about it
I must say the same for you, just trying to refute for the sake of refuting and using false arguments and making false claims and misinterpreting...because you're like a brick wall.
I must say the same for you, just trying to refute for the sake of refuting and using false arguments and making false claims and misinterpreting...
it touches like 95% of them.For a second I thought the thread touches all Nasuverse' tier 1's
Wonder will there be people that'll try to defend that, since without opposition there's no funit touches like 95% of them.
ill come back to collect the rest later.
the higher-D scaling leads to some mega-****** scaling chains, as i pointed out.Wonder will there be people that'll try to defend that, since without opposition there's no fun
Discussion rules can change! You are in fact allowed to say "That rule is unfounded, and this reason for downgrading and changing that rule makes sense." or "The reasons for the speed rating make sense, so it, and the rule, should stay." or even "I'm not sure what should be done."
I think your view in particular is pretty relevant, since you were one of the two staff members that commented on the upgrade immediately before the discussion rule got put into place.
Discussion rules can be struck down if it is decided by a later group that the rule is illegitimate. For now, discussion ought to continue as if the rule were not made, until those staff pinged on the subject speak their minds: reckon their opinions are among the most relevant.
Are we finally acknowledging this?the higher-D scaling leads to some mega-****** scaling chains, as i pointed out.
8-D earthquakes bro!!!! 8-D solar flares!!!!
4 dimensions are actually 8!
Hopefully (send me scans if you have any)Are we finally acknowledging this?
This is one of the most "up in the air" points of Typemoon in my opinion. See:The claim about aspects being "inseparable" and "identical" is directly contradicted by Void Shiki's own words. She explicitly states that:
She is specifically "the personality of the flesh as such"
—The flesh, we may say, becomes the basis of the intellect. It does not itself "have" an intellect. The flesh simply "is." But the flesh does have a personality, a will, of a kind. It grows up as one with, and gives birth to, the intellect. That - is what I am.
So, Void is the "personality" of the Body = but not a personality in the same way others have. It's not something born from Intellect. It's not "self-reflected"—"I" am not a personality borne of the intellect. I am the personality of the flesh as such.
—Ultimately, Shiki - he and she could exchange with one another because they held my currency in common. A single foundation governed them both. That is "Ryougi Shiki." You know Ryougi is liangyi, so it stands to reason that two liangyi together make a taiji, doesn't it? That is me. I am that which takes the shape of the taiji, its circular outline.
Personality of BODY = an intrinsic thing that is "passive". Intellect personalities are born from activity and "movement", "Mind" - and exists only as such. Body's cannot "perceive" or "know" because that function is of the Brain, aand Brain being Active = Intellect Personality.—I do, after a fashion. A personality of the flesh as such arises in every human, but ordinarily it does not come to any kind of self-awareness. Usually, before that can happen, the intellect stirs to life. From out of the body, more precisely the brain, the intellect is produced.
—The intellect borne out of the brain's activity becomes a personality and gains executive function over the fleshly body. At that point any personality which dwelt in the flesh becomes meaningless.
—It's because of this that the intellect tends to treat the brain which gave birth to it as if it were something specially set apart from the rest of the fleshly body, even though it is just one part of the whole.
—I think I get it, he said. Your ability to "know" or "perceive" the outside world is dependent on Shiki's personality.
—Correct. I am simply an unpowered piece of hardware. Without the requisite software I am just an inert box.
What I think people often either ignore or don't realize is that Ryougi Shiki has been defined some lines above:—My origin is nihil. From nihil I originated, the flesh that I am, the corpse in the womb to which life was somehow given. That is why Shiki can perceive death. For two years, in her comatose state, she was unable to view the outside world, and could do nothing but gaze into the nihil that Ryougi Shiki "is." More than simply seeing, she felt death.
—Ultimately, Shiki - he and she could exchange with one another because they held my currency in common. A single foundation governed them both. That is "Ryougi Shiki." You know Ryougi is liangyi, so it stands to reason that two liangyi together make a taiji, doesn't it? That is me. I am that which takes the shape of the taiji, its circular outline.
Could you explain what you mean? Because they are not "separate" if they are a Ryougi. It just wouldn't be a Ryougi.The claim about "indivisible whole" is contradicted by how the personalities are explicitly described as separate and hierarchical:
So far, the majority of users and staff members disagree with the thread. We'll have to see if it goes through or not. (Plus, it seems like Wankbreaker's intention was to go to Low 2-C, or something like that).So if 8D is being Thanos’d cuz sun quakes and all the other nerfs Wankbreaker is giving, does this mean the peak of all TYPE-MOON is just Star level? Probably Planet level if we’re gonna take ORT planet busting as impressive since it’s a high tier character.
This would be an even larger nerf than even Mario lmao. RIP OP Nasuverse in VSBW. Guess you’ll have to say goodbye to your OP status here. You’ll have to make do with other websites and communities. I think the G1 Death Battle guys still have you as OP so you’ll be fine Nasuverse, just not here if this keeps up xD
8D to Planet/Star is nuts. I assume Root also will have its 1-A rating gone if Wankbreaker makes more threads and stuff.
It’s either 4-B, 3-A, or low 2-c, yea.So far, the majority of users and staff members disagree with the thread. We'll have to see if it goes through or not. (Plus, it seems like Wankbreaker's intention was to go to Low 2-C, or something like that).
Void Shiki isn't womanSo… after the Shiki nerf, is Arcueid the strongest woman in the Nasuverse?
It’s either 4-B, 3-A, or low 2-c, yea.
The people who disagree seem to be neglecting that Avalon was completely fine from Goetia’s attack that scales above all of extra.
That alone is a huge issue.
Merlin had an eternity to escape and couldn't. A simple attack using brute force would do the same as punching air.——————“No....that’s not the most correct expression to
describe such a thing either. For this realm is after all set upon both a
higher and a lower plane of our world.
I would say that it exists in the exact same point and location but
off-set by several phases.”
????Void Shiki isn't woman
Ryougi is Female Void is genderlessAvalon's "Defense" follows a concept isntead of a scale/hierarchy. (Such as Fafnir's Armor or God Hand)
As far as we only the World or something akin to it could affect it.
I think Merlin describes it in GoA first chapter.
Merlin had an eternity to escape and couldn't. A simple attack using brute force would do the same as punching air.
????
Avalon'un "Savunma"sı bir ölçek/hiyerarşi yerine bir kavramı takip eder. (Fafnir'in Zırhı veya Tanrı Eli gibi)
Bizim bildiğimiz kadarıyla onu sadece Dünya veya ona benzer bir şey etkileyebilir.
Sanırım Merlin bunu GoA'nın ilk bölümünde anlatıyor.
Merlin'in kaçmak için bir sonsuzluğu vardı ve başaramadı. Kaba kuvvet kullanarak basit bir saldırı, havaya yumruk atmakla aynı etkiyi yapardı.
????
They are….the same existence.Ryougi is Female Void is genderless
NopeThey are….the same existence.
My guy read boundary of fullness: garden of saintsNope
A deeper level of consciousness, created from Shiki Ryougi’s dual personality.
A female personality, in her late twenties. A calm and understanding older sister.
I’m aware,but not sure what you’re getting at.Avalon's "Defense" follows a concept isntead of a scale/hierarchy. (Such as Fafnir's Armor or God Hand)
As far as we only the World or something akin to it could affect it.
I think Merlin describes it in GoA first chapter.
Merlin had an eternity to escape and couldn't. A simple attack using brute force would do the same as punching air
super womanVoid Shiki isn't woman
Do not engage in dialogue with me. bark in the corner pleaseMy guy read boundary of fullness: garden of saints
My aura is too strongDo not engage in dialogue with me. bark in the corner please
Void is the body - a FEMALE human body... It may be genderless if you want to separate sex and gender, but it is a body of the female sex.Ryougi is Female Void is genderless