The fact that they are "aspects" of the same existence does not make them equivalent to the same level, the same ontological level or the same power. We can explain this simply with [].
This is EXACTLY what she says, actually.
I repeat myself (yet again)
わたしは、わたしと同格のわたしを作った。いえ、意志という方向性がある以上、彼女たちはわたしより高位 なわたしかしらね。ふたりが異なる人格であろうと思考回路が同一だったのは、彼女たちが結局『両儀式の中の 善と悪』だったから。発端はわたしであり、また、その結論もわたしにある。そうしなければ異なる方向性の彼 女たちが両立できるはずはないものね」
"I
created another, equal version of myself. No, given that there's a sense of will, they might be considered higher than me. Although they are different personalities, their thought processes were identical because, after all, they were the 'good and evil within Shiki Ryougi.' The origin is me, and the conclusion also lies with me. Without that, those two, with their differing directions, wouldn't be able to coexist.”
Although the Vortex of Origin, the Akashic Records or the Spiral Origin are referred to as aspects of [], this does not mean that [] is on the same level as the Vortex of Origin, the Spiral Origin or the Akashic Records. Although they are aspects of [], the Akashic Records are referred to as such by magicians and those whose ultimate goal is to access the root. And the meaning behind that varies according to one's understanding, and it's generally considered to be the source of everything and the place from which everything flows.
There’s no difference, actually. Void Shiki uses the 2 terms interchangeably. Even if we say your argument is true, she very clearly has a name, being “Ryougi Shiki”. Therefore it shoots your own argument in the foot, as she can’t be “ “, she’s “Ryougi Shiki”.
But these are only one aspect or extension of it and cannot be reduced to any sub-aspect. And although these aspects are explained differently by each consciousness, the moment we baptize [] as anything, it ceases to be [], because the naming reduces it to what it is not by nature. And this means that even though they are aspects of the same existence, they are in a different state. Here [] is Void. So this aspect state is analogous to this
Addressed above.
She can’t be “ “, as she has an Origin, which means she is a derivative.
Something that has a cause cannot be the fundamental cause.
Origin [Others]
The direction of everything that arose from fundamental cause. The α that enabled the existence of α, the absolute order that existed at the very core.
Using your argument, Why is Shiki “ “, if she has a name? She shouldn’t be equal to “ “ if we take your argument as fact.
You don't need to talk about the distinction about personality again here because you cannot take Saber as one of her aspects and reduce it to the same existence, there is a clear difference. And you still think that his being the personality of the body limits it
We are told that the soul holds the records of the person’s existence and origin, and can perfectly create it if needed.
It does.
—Even so, the fact that I'm here, now, talking to you is entirely due to the personality of Shiki. If she wasn't here, I wouldn't even have language. I am, after all, nothing but flesh.
Just concretize it? It is also part of it, even "itself". This is clearly indicated in the scans. If you are claiming that it is not the root and that you only embody it and are not part of it, I can send you the scans on that. And Manaka and Shiki are not related to the Root to the same extent. She is connected to the Akashic Record, Shiki is connected to [], or herself, if we honestly take aspects and talk about it.
This is again, never said. Manaka is said to embody the “ Root of all creation”, and is “truth itself” (term used to refer to the Root, pretty much) If you want to be absolutely technical, she claimed to be the “Swirl of the Root”, not “ “. Your argument is again, moot.
It is not difficult to understand that is the Assassin form of Shiki, which Nasu says here is equal to Ciel. And again, if you are going to make the absurd argument that it is Void, I suggest you review what I said in the previous thread. It's annoying trying to explain the same things to someone over and over again, especially when it's such a ridiculous topic.
Ｑ：TYPE-MOON他作品で、アルク以外にサーヴァントとガチンコできるのは誰ですか？
Ａ：一対一、宝具が極めて平均的なものであるなら…という前提でいきます。二十七祖のほぼ全員、軋間紅摩、蒼崎青子。防衛戦だが戦闘になる、というのであればシエル。式、志貴の主人公コンビはサーヴァントには及びません…でも、「両儀式」ならシエルクラスまであがるかも。
Keep in mind, void shiki isn’t her canon name, it’s 「両儀式」, or “Ryougi Shiki”
So yes, it is her.
Also, "Nasu said so" is a phrase we shouldn't use
If you have to get to a level where you think you know more than the author to justify your scaling, there’s an issue.
