Like the paragraph of your you pasted from the wiki said, it’s the source of her powers and magical energy. If the source of all of that is 4D, why should I believe it scales higher?
Where does it day Tiamat's volume is infinite? She literally weighs 7,400000kgs according to her profile. It's the black mud that can't be measured.
The profile itself calls her volume infinite
It composes her saintgraph, and she can use it to remodel it to buff herself. And she is the sea.
That's the official English translation of the lines, but the fan translation seems to back it up.
The Black Mud being "essentially" a 4D pocket dimension doesn't stop Tiamat scaling to 6D-8D stuff (unless we're going to say Goku can't be 2-C because he's physically a 3D being).
I'd be ok with this. I'd love this. Best trade deal ever.
... Ok, that would be funny as hell.
The problem is that the mud comprises Tiamats saintgraph ( and she can use more of it to make herself stronger), if you know what a saint graph is (you probably do), you can start to see the issue.
Oh no... Actually, wait, that would be hilarious! (It helps that Goku would get washed by most 5D characters, which is really funny).
Goetias big beam is even said to be able to be tanked by it, and that thing scales above 99% of the verse
Curious Breaker if 6-D - 8-D stuff all gets removed, what would be the next highest tier character for Nasu in your eyes?
I’m personally seeing star to universe level, depends on what’s the most consistent when I finish composing my draft
By "Universal" are you referring to Universal or Universal+?
Literally the same thing I said
Pretty sure Gilgamesh is classless throughout? (Unless there’s a plot point where he gains a class that I forgot about)
He's Archer in FGO though.
ah, I see now
Does this mean servants don’t have origins?
Void shiki thread is 1 vote away.
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Eh, it's not really a problem. It's a part of herself, but it's not the "main" part of her, nor is it her strongest ability. It's just one of her Authorities. I also don't remember her using it to power herself up. She uses it to overwrite Ereshkigal's Underworld, but that's not exactly the same thing.
That's mostly because Tiamat is similar in strength to Goetia, and because Tiamat's immortality is bullshit incarnate. There are very few characters in the franchise that could actually kill her.
Eh, probably not since Gilgamesh is considered Classless in Fate/Extra CCC.
I know, I just didn't see it when I typed out my response.
The mud composes her saint graph. The saint graph, as you know affects the strength of everything, including hax. it would not make sense for that 4D mud to be able to buff her either if she was 6D, as it would be less than an infinitesimal portion of her power
Except the mud is the “ki” in this scenario. If a 4D power source is the source of your saint graph ( and can strengthen it), it makes no sense to be 6D.
It doesn’t say “akin”,but “rivaling” or “equaling”.
Yea,but vegeta doesn’t say “this attack equals the Big Bang” or “this attack rivals the Big Bang”.
nobu nobu nobu!
The durability of the sea of life is directly mentioned,iirc
Now what's next on the table?
They had 2 months to ask a staff for permission to refute my reasoning, and only kingnanaya somewhat tried to do that.
Well, i agree with you on that. Knowledgeable people disappear when it comes to important stuff. I wanted to see more people to argue about that tbh
They’re free to try to make their own CRT
I wasn't.
Do you remember when she buffs herself with it?
That's why I brought up Ki. Their Ki is 3D, yet they can power up and gain 4D attack potency with it.
For whatever reason, I can't open your Imgur link.
Neither does this; judging by it being Ruby Text, it's an alternate reading of the name.
It's formatted exactly like all of the other alternate name readings I've seen since it uses Ruby Text, but alright, I guess.
If it's the statement I'm thinking of (and if I am remembering it correctly), Goetia's Ars Almadel Salomonis is actually stated to be strong enough to destroy the entire Sea of Life.
It’s in the material I sent, she uses it to enter her draconic form
Everything is technically insignificantly 4D due to having time (a purely 3D object would have no sense of time),that powering up is just bringing that up into something significant
Honestly, even WITH the current scaling this doesn’t make any sense, as no one actually is capable of destroying the planet yet except for Chaos, Shiny Star, ORT, and Archetype Earth.
Those attack names don’t have a statement of power, unlike this scenario
Could you send the statement? Or what chapter it’s from exactly of what singularity? I’ll look
considering the knowledgable people on the verse left the wiki, unless they return or work together i don't think it will lol. Crystalvalley, Hyperzero, Theoritical Toxic, Tdjwo etc could had and would had stopped the downgraded if they worked together. Problem is, getting them together is a pain in the ass.
