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And Saber doesn’t even normally have Avalon on top of that.

Also what a old video too
Oh BTW if you want to know what i think, well
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FSF equates DAA with Divine spirits and also, ignoring FGo which is sub reality garbage like Umineko, etc yea generally Divine Spirits in the old canon are equated with DAA although type tier true ancestors or normal true ancestors even demolish divine spirits lol.
 
Oh BTW if you want to know what i think, well
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FSF equates DAA with Divine spirits and also, ignoring FGo which is sub reality garbage like Umineko, etc yea generally Divine Spirits in the old canon are equated with DAA although type tier true ancestors or normal true ancestors even demolish divine spirits lol.
I'm not sure why you're bringing up Fate/Grand Order since Dead Apostles and Dead Apostle Ancestors aren't mentioned in it.

Edit: That being said, Fate/Grand Order does provide some more evidence for scaling through some other stuff.
 
I'm not sure why you're bringing up Fate/Grand Order since Dead Apostles and Dead Apostle Ancestors aren't mentioned in it.
Kid, its called a joke and I said it because IK some guy will bring it to try and "disprove" what i said even though IDC about fgo since it's a different and worse canon or rather, it is in a worse and different canon with completely incompatible messages, lore etc
 
Perhaps, but now I look into it, the game does have multiple endings which is interesting enough.

Also that does remind me. What exactly is you guy’s positions between True Ancestors and other god in that case?

Yeah, the game has an ending for each character.

I personally consider the True Ancestors to be individually above the other Types. This is implied by the fact that ten of them were too much for Arcueid, even though Type Moon (her equal) seems to be significantly more powerful than the other Types. Type Moon not only possesses Mystic Eyes that surpass MEoDP but is also described as having the ability to alter the Sixth Law of Creation, which dictates that all things must eventually die or end.

Additionally, the main reason he lost against Zelretch was because he underestimated him and didn't know that he was capable of True Magic, and even then Zelretch had to permanently weaken himself to barely beat this TM. But we later see in Strange Fake and Mahoyo that even this weakened Zelretch can do things like affirming or locking World Lines, retroactively make things true or false and edit the traits and abilities of people across history.
All of that is obviously massively beyond the scope of the other Ultimate Ones being confined to their own celestial bodies.

In addition, even with his standard Type powers, TM rivals Red Arcueid, who can control both Gaia and the Moon. And his reality marble (The Millennium Castle), just seems to be built differently, as it states an Ether Liners cannot break one of the 78 doors in the castle. While you need the power to destroy the whole castle to just sit up from its throne, which TM obviously can do. And Ether Liners can contend in combat overall with other Types, mainly struggling due to their no concept of Death. Zelretch also noted humanity is 100 years too early to face ORT, meaning they'd stand a chance by then, meanwhile the far older humans in Angel Notes cannot do anything to TM's RM.
 
Kid, its called a joke
That's fair.
and I said it because IK some guy will bring it to try and "disprove" what i said
Well, uh, Fate/Grand Order doesn't actually disprove your argument and actually provides some support for it.
even though IDC about fgo since it's a different and worse canon or rather,
I mean, sure, I guess. It's your opinion.
it is in a worse and different canon with completely incompatible messages, lore etc
I don't see how, but alright.
 
Hi, I wonder, shouldn't Tohno Shiki have Enviromental Destruction? In Arcueid Route he killed the floor under him, which caused it to collapse and turned the lower part of Roa's body into nonexistence, and in Ciel's True Ending route he killed the nature surrounding him so Arcueid could die. I think on there it was also said that he could kill the air in front of him.
 
Hi, I wonder, shouldn't Tohno Shiki have Enviromental Destruction? In Arcueid Route he killed the floor under him, which caused it to collapse and turned the lower part of Roa's body into nonexistence, and in Ciel's True Ending route he killed the nature surrounding him so Arcueid could die. I think on there it was also said that he could kill the air in front of him.
Is Environmental Destruction an ability on this site?

Regardless, he'll get some abilities related to those feats.
 
Is Environmental Destruction an ability on this site?

Regardless, he'll get some abilities related to those feats.
It is on this site.

Edit:

 
It is on this site.

Edit:

Ah, cool. That's good to know.
 
You’re treating this as if we’re like in some Saturday morning cartoon
Well the cartoon might get cancelled, no message were posted on it excepted the day of it's creation, let's hope that it won't last for months or even never reach a conclusion like nearly every nasu thread not made by King_Nanaya
probably, the Power Modification page says



so making an ability stronger seems to just fall under stat amp given how it's contrasted with power null
If it's just an amp it's just Stat Amplifications, even if it's related to things like IQ.
 
So another post without actual scans huh...cant really be use to refute it....
I understand the rule if it was an english work, for example, but what's the use of scans of a fan translation / japanese text? '-'
Because to use fan translations as if it was scans of the material is just non-sense.
 
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