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Okay. Sure.Now is the time to unite and protest.
you're doing a good job with countering them, but sadly there's already enough mod votes for this to pass, let's see what happensCreating a Welcoming Space for Naruto and Boruto Fans on the Wiki
Now is the time to unite and protest. If this rule gets passed, I guarantee it will be years before any meaningful change can happen. It grants the mods the power to shut down CRTs at will, regardless of whether they’re right or wrong.
I’ve seen this play out before. When I first joined VS Battles Wiki years ago, there was a terrible discussion rule in place. Every time I raised a CRT against it, they kept shutting me down. It took years of persistence, but that rule was finally overturned this year—proving it had been flawed all along for over four years.
Back then, they tried to paint me as irrational—“Oh, he’s just screaming bias”—but the reality was the discussion itself was flawed. The rule passed, not because it was right, but due to popularity—classic textbook ad populum fallacy.
Kaguya's ETSO The Final Chapter: Part 1, Episode 2
Yeah we need to talk about this jutsu, There has been a spike in the amount of conversation surrounding this jutsu in recent months and it has been a pretty controversial topic for the past 10 years since it was shown in the manga that everyone and their mother has a different opinion about...vsbattles.com
Wow, the hypocrisy is real. You’re trying to discredit me for something you’ve done yourself. I know how you got Bleach to where it is now, yet you’re acting like you never engaged in the same tactics while calling me a ‘drama queen.’ Of course, majority approval is needed for a CRT to pass, and that’s fine. But stop misrepresenting my argument. My point is that you can’t create a discussion rule that blocks people from addressing an existing issue simply because it’s not popular. You’re being manipulative, making it seem like I targeted Slayer and Tracer, which I never did. And even if I had, why assume they can’t fall under that category? Just because they support Naruto doesn’t mean they or others don’t have concerns about the verse being overly focused on power scaling.Idk if lex is intentionally this dense or is trolling, but every single thread that passes, even his own threads, only pass if the majority of staff agrees with him. I don’t know why he’s crying about an ad populum fallacy when his very own threads that pass would be subject to the same levied criticism. Like maybe just stop being a drama queen
Edit: I know his intention is to call the dissenters biased objectively, trying to point out that logically they’re biased, which is just equally stupid given that among those staff include the biggest Naruto staff supporters like UchihaSlayer and Tracer
You’re misrepresenting my argument. This isn’t about bias or lack of it. My concern is that if this rule gets passed, it will make it difficult to create meaningful CRTs. I’m trying to prevent what happened to me years ago from happening again. I’m not being unreasonable, I’m not trolling, and I’m certainly not crazy. No matter what, even if I have to stand alone against everyone, I will stand for what is right.Y'all are acting like things that are extremely debatable and controversial are some irrefutable objective truth when they're really not.
An objective fact would be something like "Orochimaru is a class above Part I Kakashi" or "Hashirama defeated Madara at the Final Valley". Those are objective truths, which is why nobody argues about them.
The ETSB scaling to physicals, however, is not. Which is why it's been heavily debated for a decade.
And much like any debatable subject, the majority gravitates towards the better constructed argument.
Instead of crying bias, maybe just acknowledge the fact that the arguments made for y'all's side have been historically doodoo and just..... like, make better ones? If something has NEVER once worked, maybe it's time to take a step back and reevaluate the approach?
Not everything is some grand conspiracy.
@Samlex1234 it's a trap. The cabal is trying to divert your attention from the discussion rule threadThere are no downgrades planned, I’m currently working on an upgrade thread atm.
There are no downgrades planned, I’m currently working on an upgrade thread atm.
Challenging a flawed system does not equate to whiny, you certain did that calling out VS wiki on it lack of consistency, which is not a bad thing. When I do the same thing stop trying to make me look bad you hypocrite. Let me refresh your memory you hypocrite remember this CRT you created simply to ask for consistency?Yes I’m saying stop being a baby because I too was once a whiny baby, but I stopped being one.
No rule is passed due to popular vote alone. Argumentation has to be made to convince the judges to vote in favor of a rule. It’s not a “oh majority like this” it’s an “oh the majority were convinced by this argumentation”. You’re equating “I disagree with this” to “it’s not grounded in anything”.No rule should get passed due to popularity alone
No rule is passed due to popular vote alone. Argumentation has to be made to convince the judges to vote in favor of a rule. It’s not a “oh majority like this” it’s an “oh the majority were convinced by this argumentation”. You’re equating “I disagree with this” to “it’s not grounded in anything”.
InterestingBtw, if this calc is accepted, god tier will be 31.8cKakashi Intercepts False Darkness Recalc
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Creating a Welcoming Space for Naruto and Boruto Fans on the Wiki
Now is the time to unite and protest. If this rule gets passed, I guarantee it will be years before any meaningful change can happen. It grants the mods the power to shut down CRTs at will, regardless of whether they’re right or wrong.
I’ve seen this play out before. When I first joined VS Battles Wiki years ago, there was a terrible discussion rule in place. Every time I raised a CRT against it, they kept shutting me down. It took years of persistence, but that rule was finally overturned this year—proving it had been flawed all along for over four years.
Back then, they tried to paint me as irrational—“Oh, he’s just screaming bias”—but the reality was the discussion itself was flawed. The rule passed, not because it was right, but due to popularity—classic textbook ad populum fallacy.
Kaguya's ETSO The Final Chapter: Part 1, Episode 2
Yeah we need to talk about this jutsu, There has been a spike in the amount of conversation surrounding this jutsu in recent months and it has been a pretty controversial topic for the past 10 years since it was shown in the manga that everyone and their mother has a different opinion about...vsbattles.com
Bleach is a ridiculously bad comparison..they literally had to bring out a new anime with fresh canon information for their GT to reach tier 4 and 3 levels. Even when that rule was removed all it did was ED for the longest time before TYBW came out.Challenging a flawed system does not equate to whiny, you certain did that calling out VS wiki on it lack of consistency, which is not a bad thing. When I do the same thing stop trying to make me look bad you hypocrite. Let me refresh your memory you hypocrite remember this CRT you created simply to ask for consistency?
Kaguya’s ETSO
It is as it causes no issues when it doesnt scale to anyone but itself. Not relevant at all to the accuracy of the rating. Gross false equivalence. The bleach realms have absolutely never been assumed as being some transparent space-times like you are suggesting Kaguyas here, for whatever...vsbattles.com
This used to exist before at a point
Bleach Rules
- Do not create discussion threads trying to upgrade Yhwach to 3-A or Low 2-C for attempting to destroy the Soul Society and the Living World until new canon information is released. These terms have been accepted to refer to the planets in said context, and the topic has been extensively discussed many times.
Naruto rules
For most of this rules we did not get new evidence. How did they get passed initially then?. Well popularity? This is my point of contention,
- Please refrain from attempting to upgrade Momoshiki and Kinshiki above Kaguya based on Sasuke's statement. It was decided that Sasuke was not a reliable source of information regarding Momoshiki's and Kinshiki's powers, since he never faced both until some chapters later. It's also concluded that the statements of "greater threat" and Kaguya fearing them are not enough to make Momoshiki stronger than her, considering the context of her past, and the power-ups that she received during the 1000 years she was on Earth. She also feared three Otsutsuki at the same time, and not only one. The feats displayed are also inconsistent with this scaling, since Momoshiki fought and had trouble with SPSM Naruto after having his chakra drained for a long period of time, and Sasuke, who was low on chakra by using portals, while Kaguya fought and easily overpowered both Naruto and Sasuke at peak condition. This topic has been brought up several times during a brief period of time, and the staff and regular members are tired of dealing with the subject.
No rule should get passed due to popularity alone; it must be grounded in sound reasoning and an understanding of its potential impact on the community it serves. Popularity alone leads to hasty decisions that overlook important nuances, fairness, and long-term consequences, ultimately undermining the integrity and effectiveness of governance in this case the leaders or Mods of VS Battle wiki.
I actually have a calc of sasuke blitzing the light of the infinite tsukoyomi before it reaches Naruto around 30c as wellBtw, if this calc is accepted, god tier will be 31.8cKakashi Intercepts False Darkness Recalc
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For a person who believes the verse is hard capped at 5b what good do you want to offer it?once some of the bunches of etso threads get closed I’ll be dropping a meaty thread until then I don’t want to spam staff with threads so we wait
What a profoundly asinine mindset...For a person who believes the verse is hard capped at 5b what good do you want to offer it?
Pretty sure this is about 6T Naruto's Bijuudama so 5-B is irrelevant either wayFor a person who believes the verse is hard capped at 5b what good do you want to offer it?
“LOL” ~ NierreFor a person who believes the verse is hard capped at 5b what good do you want to offer it?
This is fine but i still feel the old discussion rule is the best.Y'all are acting like things that are extremely debatable and controversial are some irrefutable objective truth when they're really not.
An objective fact would be something like "Orochimaru is a class above Part I Kakashi" or "Hashirama defeated Madara at the Final Valley". Those are objective truths, which is why nobody argues about them.
The ETSB scaling to physicals, however, is not. Which is why it's been heavily debated for a decade.
And much like any debatable subject, the majority gravitates towards the better constructed argument.
Instead of crying bias, maybe just acknowledge the fact that the arguments made for y'all's side have been historically doodoo and just..... like, make better ones? If something has NEVER once worked, maybe it's time to take a step back and reevaluate the approach?
Not everything is some grand conspiracy.
It's not.Pretty sure this is about 6T Naruto's Bijuudama so 5-B is irrelevant either way
Here comes the defender.What a profoundly asinine mindset...
Funny enough once I get my thread out, the Shibai thread from Deceived is next. My thread is all typed out, I’m just waiting for some threads to close up as to not crowd the staff’s time.When will Shibai's profile be finished?
My Prescience is still unrefinedIt's not.
Facts if you like Bleach you cannot do anything good for NarutoTill we get more information on him. Lest these bleachtards destroy his profile with trash.
Shibai won't be useable in vs matches right? Coz like no context on how he fightsFacts if you like Bleach you cannot do anything good for Naruto
By that logic, Hagoromo wouldn't be usable. We can make logical inferences based on the info we have and how characters with similar abilities utilized them.Shibai won't be useable in vs matches right? Coz like no context on how he fights
I know but like in matches where the first move kinda determines the match he'd be really tricky to useBy that logic, Hagoromo wouldn't be usable. We can make logical inferences based on the info we have and how characters with similar abilities utilized them.
For sure, that’s just one of the downsides of not seeing him fight for the time being.I know but like in matches where the first move kinda determines the match he'd be really tricky to use
Y'all just need to step up your goon gameI know but like in matches where the first move kinda determines the match he'd be really tricky to use
Hate to sound like a privileged mf but this is such a ridiculous question to ask.For a person who believes the verse is hard capped at 5b what good do you want to offer it?