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Naruto has 3x more Chakra than the combined SA and Kaguya far outscales him…. The ETSO is just AoE, they outscale the final value
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
HelloThere1089
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Ain’t nobody got time to fully type out “Shinobi Alliance” in a shit post…
HelloThere1089
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If that 4B thread passes somehow you guys know Kakashi would be 4B right?
MinatoSparkle
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Which one?
HelloThere1089
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I would be the happiest man in the world, but it needs to have a sound basis for that.
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Hey, I used to work concessions, don't besmirch my people.
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What would Madara’s first reaction be to his Meteors instantly vanishing to Sukunahikona and he has NO INFO about the ability? 
HelloThere1089
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MinatoSparkle
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What would Madara’s first reaction be to his Meteors instantly vanishing to Sukunahikona and he has NO INFO about the ability?
HelloThere1089
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"Wow, you must have two dead brothers"What would Madara’s first reaction be to his Meteors instantly vanishing to Sukunahikona and he has NO INFO about the ability?
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Yes, I'm aware.
It's explaining the individual components of the Jutsu before touching on the final product (3HW).
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2 Braincells divided between 4 heads
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I just want a consistent strength for Kiba... he's so sad rn
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Being stronger than Sakura's pretty decent given that her physical strength was above Kakashi's.
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Wait why is Sakura not resistant to like mind manipulation and the rest asper genjutsu
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Creating a Welcoming Space for Naruto and Boruto Fans on the Wiki
Now is the time to unite and protest. If this rule gets passed, I guarantee it will be years before any meaningful change can happen. It grants the mods the power to shut down CRTs at will, regardless of whether they’re right or wrong.
I’ve seen this play out before. When I first joined VS Battles Wiki years ago, there was a terrible discussion rule in place. Every time I raised a CRT against it, they kept shutting me down. It took years of persistence, but that rule was finally overturned this year—proving it had been flawed all along for over four years.
Back then, they tried to paint me as irrational—“Oh, he’s just screaming bias”—but the reality was the discussion itself was flawed. The rule passed, not because it was right, but due to popularity—classic textbook ad populum fallacy.
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Now is the time to unite and protest. If this rule gets passed, I guarantee it will be years before any meaningful change can happen. It grants the mods the power to shut down CRTs at will, regardless of whether they’re right or wrong.
I’ve seen this play out before. When I first joined VS Battles Wiki years ago, there was a terrible discussion rule in place. Every time I raised a CRT against it, they kept shutting me down. It took years of persistence, but that rule was finally overturned this year—proving it had been flawed all along for over four years.
Back then, they tried to paint me as irrational—“Oh, he’s just screaming bias”—but the reality was the discussion itself was flawed. The rule passed, not because it was right, but due to popularity—classic textbook ad populum fallacy.
Kaguya's ETSO The Final Chapter: Part 1, Episode 2
Yeah we need to talk about this jutsu, There has been a spike in the amount of conversation surrounding this jutsu in recent months and it has been a pretty controversial topic for the past 10 years since it was shown in the manga that everyone and their mother has a different opinion about...
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bro thinks he's in an anime
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Don't do that man.
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sorry pookie
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Idk if lex is intentionally this dense or is trolling, but every single thread that passes, even his own threads, only pass if the majority of staff agrees with him. I don’t know why he’s crying about an ad populum fallacy when his very own threads that pass would be subject to the same levied criticism. Like maybe just stop being a drama queen 
Edit: I know his intention is to call the dissenters biased objectively, trying to point out that logically they’re biased, which is just equally stupid given that among those staff include the biggest Naruto staff supporters like UchihaSlayer and Tracer
Edit: I know his intention is to call the dissenters biased objectively, trying to point out that logically they’re biased, which is just equally stupid given that among those staff include the biggest Naruto staff supporters like UchihaSlayer and Tracer
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Y'all are acting like things that are extremely debatable and controversial are some irrefutable objective truth when they're really not.
An objective fact would be something like "Orochimaru is a class above Part I Kakashi" or "Hashirama defeated Madara at the Final Valley". Those are objective truths, which is why nobody argues about them.
The ETSB scaling to physicals, however, is not. Which is why it's been heavily debated for a decade.
And much like any debatable subject, the majority gravitates towards the better constructed argument.
Instead of crying bias, maybe just acknowledge the fact that the arguments made for y'all's side have been historically doodoo and just..... like, make better ones? If something has NEVER once worked, maybe it's time to take a step back and reevaluate the approach?
Not everything is some grand conspiracy.
An objective fact would be something like "Orochimaru is a class above Part I Kakashi" or "Hashirama defeated Madara at the Final Valley". Those are objective truths, which is why nobody argues about them.
The ETSB scaling to physicals, however, is not. Which is why it's been heavily debated for a decade.
And much like any debatable subject, the majority gravitates towards the better constructed argument.
Instead of crying bias, maybe just acknowledge the fact that the arguments made for y'all's side have been historically doodoo and just..... like, make better ones? If something has NEVER once worked, maybe it's time to take a step back and reevaluate the approach?
Not everything is some grand conspiracy.
HelloThere1089
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Because some people don't understand what negotiation and compromise is. They view everything as them vs the world and people owing them an explanation for their opinions. Rather than viewing it as "people have their own opinions and so the best way to move forward is to try and make a case that benefits everyone".
HelloThere1089
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Basically democracy was a mistake and therefore Lex stands as a one-man army....
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What are you on about bruv? That clown is, like, the #1 Naruto hater/downplayer. Get a grip...
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Kaguya’s Big Black Balls Solo Dbz Part 1/3
Intro: It was advised that this thread that it be split into 3 threads for more efficient arguing. The current interpretation of Kaguya’s ETSO (Expansive Truth-Seeking Orb) in relation to its size and scale is flawed when considering the statements and narrative in the series. These series of...
This is part one of the scaling thread made yesterday to be split into 3
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Okay. Sure.
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I understand some of y’all are irritated at bruh, but um… Maybe we can be a little “nicer” on the characterization of some actions and how we describe certain arguments? Also, some of us should be more aware of the position our stances live in and acknowledge the faults in them even when we don’t want to concede. Maybe that’s not a hill worth dying on and stirring the pot over? 
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you're doing a good job with countering them, but sadly there's already enough mod votes for this to pass, let's see what happensCreating a Welcoming Space for Naruto and Boruto Fans on the Wiki
Now is the time to unite and protest. If this rule gets passed, I guarantee it will be years before any meaningful change can happen. It grants the mods the power to shut down CRTs at will, regardless of whether they’re right or wrong.
I’ve seen this play out before. When I first joined VS Battles Wiki years ago, there was a terrible discussion rule in place. Every time I raised a CRT against it, they kept shutting me down. It took years of persistence, but that rule was finally overturned this year—proving it had been flawed all along for over four years.
Back then, they tried to paint me as irrational—“Oh, he’s just screaming bias”—but the reality was the discussion itself was flawed. The rule passed, not because it was right, but due to popularity—classic textbook ad populum fallacy.
Kaguya's ETSO The Final Chapter: Part 1, Episode 2
Yeah we need to talk about this jutsu, There has been a spike in the amount of conversation surrounding this jutsu in recent months and it has been a pretty controversial topic for the past 10 years since it was shown in the manga that everyone and their mother has a different opinion about...
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Wow, the hypocrisy is real. You’re trying to discredit me for something you’ve done yourself. I know how you got Bleach to where it is now, yet you’re acting like you never engaged in the same tactics while calling me a ‘drama queen.’ Of course, majority approval is needed for a CRT to pass, and that’s fine. But stop misrepresenting my argument. My point is that you can’t create a discussion rule that blocks people from addressing an existing issue simply because it’s not popular. You’re being manipulative, making it seem like I targeted Slayer and Tracer, which I never did. And even if I had, why assume they can’t fall under that category? Just because they support Naruto doesn’t mean they or others don’t have concerns about the verse being overly focused on power scaling.Idk if lex is intentionally this dense or is trolling, but every single thread that passes, even his own threads, only pass if the majority of staff agrees with him. I don’t know why he’s crying about an ad populum fallacy when his very own threads that pass would be subject to the same levied criticism. Like maybe just stop being a drama queen
Edit: I know his intention is to call the dissenters biased objectively, trying to point out that logically they’re biased, which is just equally stupid given that among those staff include the biggest Naruto staff supporters like UchihaSlayer and Tracer
I will link some of your thread soon you hypocrite
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You’re misrepresenting my argument. This isn’t about bias or lack of it. My concern is that if this rule gets passed, it will make it difficult to create meaningful CRTs. I’m trying to prevent what happened to me years ago from happening again. I’m not being unreasonable, I’m not trolling, and I’m certainly not crazy. No matter what, even if I have to stand alone against everyone, I will stand for what is right.
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At the end of this discussion, Naruto will be 11-C
Ghostimuscrime
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the way we have been getting sooo many approved upgrades lately is starting to make me think there might be a series of immense downgrades soon
