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It's definitely not the latter lmao. It's just a skill/stealth feat. Which, I guess, is technically what Substitution is, sooooo you could chalk it up to that.
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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Is something wrong with the site rn?
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So much.
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He's dumb
Kawaki doing that to Naruto and Hinata is likely gonna be his smartest moment in the series
HelloThere1089
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Puberty or sumn idk.
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There seems to be issues with the site fr though
When I try to view some profiles it does the whole white screen thing and like "'we moved forums" shit
HelloThere1089
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Did no one tell you?
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Am I the only one who is bugged by the fact In Character Kakashi refuses to utilize Rasengan?
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Maybe I'm just stupid but I am really tired rn after 3 days of back to back work
So am I just missing something here or...
HelloThere1089
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We have moved to twitter. See ya there.
Nah I'm just messing with you. I have no idea what's wrong.
HelloThere1089
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I am actually curious about this. Can the translators verify this?
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He can also use the first gate, but never uses it in battle.
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The ninja of a thousand jutsus who only uses two.
HelloThere1089
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They had to nerf Kakashi or else he'd solo Shibai.
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I haven't gotten around to do that but the ai answer was confirming my proposal and the definition on Jisho says order of magnitude or by a digit as the primary meaning and ik that is not the ideal solution so I'll ask a friend who's got n1 certifications to confirm this
Do you agree with the other points?
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i understand your point. Balancing real-world physics with supernatural elements in a fictional world like the Naruto universe is tough. We use (KE = 1/2 mv^2) for estimates, but we also need to remember that some jutsu might not follow these rules. While ignoring real-world physics would make it hard to measure feats, we apply it where it makes sense and recognize its limitations in other contexts. (This is just my interpretation, and I'm fine with whether or not it's accepted widely).
HelloThere1089
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The logic seems sound at the moment. But I am also not at home rn. I'd have to think about it more when I get back to my PC.
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His Raikiri is better (for him), that's probably why. He's had more time to refine it, master it, be more comfortable wielding it, etc. Probably also helps that Raiton is his natural affinity.
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As for the Gates? Bro doesn't want to flex on Guy's whole schtick
MinatoSparkle
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Likely not literalWas this statement used for upgrades before?
"In an instant, it's being reduced...! The power is an order of magnitude greater than Jigen's...!"
~ Boruto NNG #48
Supported by this and ChatGPT
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The Primary definitions are an order of magnitude tho?Likely not literal
if I'm not wrong, Bleach has a similar statement with cero oscuras that say the same thing you see on Jisho and the wiki accepts that as a 10x increase
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as your scan says "it literally refers to a digit" hence it should be taken in a literal senseLikely not literal
plus i dont think there's other phrases to say order of magnitude since if i try translating that to JP we find the same phrase found in koji's statement
and I know I shouldn't be talking about what the words mean as though I'm proficient but based on available resources this seems clearly to be a multiplicative statement
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translation and interpretation:
解放状態にある十が使える (kaihō jōtai ni aru tō ga tsukaeru) means "can be used by Ten in a released state.
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Google translate is man's best friend.
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Not really providing incorrect information is worse than no info at allSomething is better than nothing lil bro
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I'm not sure too sure Ghost but I think reason the bleach one might have been accepted was because of the above.
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Incorrect information is in the eye of the beholder
MinatoSparkle
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Considering many definitions are just about it being a huge increase and Chat GPT says it's meant to be metaphorical, I'd say it's questionable at best
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I don't think it is incorrect by default, if that phrase is the first thing that it shows when I demand a OOM statement then it means my initial premise is likely correct and I've supported this with an AI answer as well which should be able to put words together in a near accurate manner
agree to disagree tho, I don’t have much skin in the Isshiki = 10x Jigen debate anyway
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Connotations exist, we use numeric phrases in non numeric contexts to imply a great change but that doesnt mean the word inherently cant mean a numeric answer,
X is infinitely stronger than Y can be just a vague superiority that's why the latter definitions list unimaginable because they can mean hyperbolic buffs
So in the absence of counter evidence the literal definition (off by a digit) should be taken
When trying to find JP counterparts for another level or unparalleled the same phrases don't show up so I think it should be treated as 10x (and again the same varying definitions show up for the ceros)
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