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Thinking about all this conversation, Kawaki and Isshiki should have resistance to time stopping in their profiles, Kawaki could move in the daikokuten, he could also see Momo in the stopped time after he recovered his Otsutsuki powers.
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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She doesn’t scale to Sasuke’s feats at all
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What? Scan?
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I mean, you're surrounded by fodder, and the two strongest of the fodder who are also the most important people in the village, who you've already beaten before, and are likely the only people around who know where Kawaki is, so you take them somewhere and beat them until they tell you where he is because you pm have no other choice.
ofc not, he didn't really have an in-depth plan, but it was the only thing he had, bro was desperate.
but they were his best option, the only people important enough to know where he was.
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Sasuke can also perceive even without the rinnegan.
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The Resistance to TS Sasuke showed isn’t specific. It’s literally attributed to just having the Rinnegan.
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Cool. What about sealing one of them and interrogating the other? Even better sealing anybody ever on screen? What about sealing them for now, try rampaging the village, and then release them if that doesn't work? Why risk fighting when you have 1 day to live?
I agree.
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profiles need some work but yeah they should. Hag who has it scales from them and sasuke
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Did he really stop time when Kawaki sensed Momoshiki?
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Think about the fact that rinnengan abilties are specific to their orignal owner and no one else. The only shared thing is the six path of pain abilities. And it makes perfect sense for sasuke since his abilities are space time related
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Not really sure about that part but kawaki has his own feats of moving in the timeless dimension
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But Kawaki moving in the time dimension is more likely a privilege for Kawaki being the owner of the dimension, rather than him just being able to move in any stopped time.
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Is Madara's Limbo and Summon Big Rocks?
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Well, yes, Sasuke says he was feeling the same thing he felt when he first saw Momo after death, the "smoke" was also appearing, which indicates that time was stopped, I don't remember any time Momo appeared without stopping time.
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Madara's rinnegan ability is to have massive balls that he can drop at anyone's face:
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And after acquiring Hashirama Cells he now has the Wood to go with themMadara's rinnegan ability is to have massive balls that he can drop at anyone's face:
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I present to you kaguya who was affected by the gravity in her dimension even while being the owner. It just goes to show that laws are laws. Plus kawaki eye was not even active when he was inside
madara limbo is only for him and summon big rocks as i said is for everyone as it is one of the general abilities
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It’s not an Jutsu though. You would have a point if it were Jutsu of Sasuke’s (Which is the Comp you’re trying to make with other Rinnegan Jutsu), but that’s not the case.
His resistance is inherent via having a Rinnegan. It was never the byproduct of a Special Jutsu unique to his Rinnegan, ala Limbo for Madara, etc.
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That's actually a pretty good point. I forgor about that.
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I was more so asking about Heaven Concealed rather than Planetary Devastation
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I'm not sure about the Summon part, I think it is a better application of the deva path universal pull.
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huh? you do realize seeing when time is stopped is an ability i.e a jutsu right? the resistance is just a byproduct
you mean the stuff he pulls from the atmosphere or whatever? yeah that's probably general since edo rinnengan can only do the basic abilities. Just that pain could never have the chakra to pull such off
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How do you reconcile it not being ablated? For if it was pulled from space it would be lit ablaze upon entering the atmosphere.
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Arc out here making me google what "ablated" means
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Like literally, the closest comp we have is the ability to “See” Madara’s Limbo’s in their Dimension. It wasn’t just specific to his Rinnegan eyes. It’s an inherent quality for the Rinnegan in-general.
Sasuke’s Statement.
Madara’s Statement.
Sasuke’s Statement.
Madara’s Statement.
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Obviously it's just Ablazed but with a T instead of a Z ~ Trust Me
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That is not the case at all. By all means, prove it is a jutsu. Was the ability to see Limbo a “Jutsu” too? This is an irritating argument because it’s draws a false equivalence to ACTUAL Rinnegan Jutsu (Six Paths Jutsu, Limbo, Ameno, etc etc).
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Tengai Shinsei is called the power of the sage of the six paths, so I think it is a basic ability of the Rinnegan, it must be done through one of the paths.
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More or less yeah. That’s why I mentioned ablazed lol in case people didn’t know what ablating was.
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It does not have to be named to be a jutsu come on. Yes, seeing limbo is an ability. It's why we index it as such. But let me go further. Madara could not absorb amaterasu when he lost his rinnengan but sasuke could still feel and sense momo exactly as when he had his rinnengan. That's further indication that it is specific to him
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Sasuke could feel time stopped, even after losing the Rinnegan, he seems to have some degree of resistance, but to see through time stopped he could only do so with the Rinnegan.
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arc and deceived regularly update my vocabulary
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I’m not surprised as he’s had the Rinnegan for Decades by that point. Possible risidual effect? Perhaps, but either way, the Rinnegan still is inherent in that ability to see through TS.
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Was this statement used for upgrades before?
"In an instant, it's being reduced...! The power is an order of magnitude greater than Jigen's...!"
~ Boruto NNG #48
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"In an instant, it's being reduced...! The power is an order of magnitude greater than Jigen's...!"
~ Boruto NNG #48
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It’s not jutsu, period. For example, the Sharingan’s Pre-Cog or ability to see Chakra are not “Jutsu”. They are inherent qualities of the Sharingan. “Jutsu” in this case, would be Koto, Tsuki, Susanoo, Kamui, etc.
So yes, you are drawing a false equivalence when you attempt to assert inherent qualities are “Jutsu” here. It is not.
Except we literally see him do just that as well as Absorb Nine-Tails Chakra. You point is invalid.
Via Madara’s example, we know doujutsu abilities are not erased from the user’s catalog of abilities, just diminished. He had no Rinnegan but was still SHOWN using a diminished version of Preta. You literally have no standing here and I suggest you reread those parts of the war arc before continuing.
Wrong. Read above.
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Ngl that kinda just seems like a hyperbole of sorts at first glance.Was this statement used for upgrades before?
"In an instant, it's being reduced...! The power is an order of magnitude greater than Jigen's...!"
~ Boruto NNG #48
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He’s talking about Isshiki’s Doujutsu being 10x better than when Jigen used it. That has nothing to do with a stat amp.Was this statement used for upgrades before?
"In an instant, it's being reduced...! The power is an order of magnitude greater than Jigen's...!"
~ Boruto NNG #48
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