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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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that's fine, I dropped the argument of it being AP based a while ago, IK machine translators suck I just used it in the absence of a human translator.I didn’t contest the 10x translation. I contested it being in terms of Isshiki’s power contextuallyI just poked fun at you for using a translator that is notorious among Japanese language professors for being ass (at least according to my Japanese professor)
HelloThere1089
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Even if we consider it a 10x speed amp. It would be a 10x amp on weakened Jigen right? Since that's the version KK fought. The statement is vague enough that it could be regular Jigen too, but low end would be 10x 10% Jigen.
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Yeah, and that would just make Isshiki's shrinking speed relative to FP Jigen's, which does make sense. It is a low-end interpretation, though, I'll grant that.
HelloThere1089
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Yes. It would basically be at bare minimum 10x KK's speed.
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Now that the Konoha thread is over, it's time to cook up the big planet Naruto. Honestly, I didn't want this thread to get approved, but it did in the end, so that's it.
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That thread's result has absolutely no bearing on the planet's size whatsoever.
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I mean bald ass markless base jigen already is scaled to base boruto era naruto which is ftl
HelloThere1089
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Is bald ass markless base jigen stated to be < Karma Jigen at 10%?
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How many times have you said this by now?That thread's result has absolutely no bearing on the planet's size whatsoever.
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I say this because I'm going to have to reanalyze some things, not that I'm going to use Konoha as an argument, in fact it's really annoying that Konoha is this size lolThat thread's result has absolutely no bearing on the planet's size whatsoever.
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Idk probably need to dive back to the kawaki arc , does 10% even mean anything other than stamina
Also the statement we use to get Jigen above MAS is by Koji which should mean Koji is aware of a Full Powered Jigen being superior to naruto and sasuke together
So that should remove the idea that it's only about 10% jigen
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HelloThere1089
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I am not saying that KK is comparing Isshiki to 10% Jigen. I am saying at the bare minimum it would be that. You can very well make arguments for a solid "Isshiki is 10x 100% Jigen" scaling chain.
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Fair enough on this point
But Chat GPT is literally saying that the main meaning is metaphorical. To give an analogy of my own, saying something is done at lightning speed could be literal, but the general usage is metaphorical. I don't particularly have an issue with Isshiki being 10x above Jigen, I just don't think a strong basis can be made from one statement with multiple interpretations
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The definition straight up says digit difference
Is it used in non literal contexts? yes, but it is not limited to that, especially if this was sufficient to qualify for 10x claims on this wiki before
If it is a straight up definition I dont think scrutiny is warranted
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Regardless of whether you guys agree with this or not thanks for sharing your opinions, I like to have holes poked in my metas so I can strengthen them before I actually publish CRTs
HelloThere1089
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I'd say the translation is your CRT's biggest barrier currently. The logic checks out for now.
HelloThere1089
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Btw why isn't KK FTL outright? Didn't he plan on tagging Delta?
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HelloThere1089
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That's time skip Konohamaru vs pre timeskip Konohamaru tho. Also I am talking about SM KK.
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Does he even get train like Boruto and others?
Seems like he's just Konoha's worker
HelloThere1089
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Considering he never used Rasen Barricade or whatever before the timeskip, yeah.
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naruto mobile knows their audience
HelloThere1089
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Mei & Tsunade >>> the versenaruto mobile knows their audience
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naruto mobile knows their audience
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"Konoha's worker" is crazy..
Of course he trained, he learned a new Jutsu, and reacted to Hidari's attacks.
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Konohamaru was an Ao victim pre-TS, he definitely trained lol.
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Even that aside, KK scales to a stronger Kakashi than the one Kido was alarmed of
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naruto mobile knows their audience
Curse You Boruto!
HelloThere1089
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Well that hasn't been implemented yet. But my question was why the scaling chain I mentioned wasn't present all this time. SM KK at the very least, needs to scale to Delta in speed.
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deserved slander
MinatoSparkle
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That is a definition yes
I didn't say it's limited to it, just that that seems to be its main usage. I'm not talking about the wiki, especially not in verses I don't do, just taking the statement on its own merits.
