Kakashi says “you may even surpass me” in every translation I’ve seen not sure about the viz tho
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ナルトお前は確かに強くなった。オレと肩を並べるかそれ以上だ・・・
Kakashi was fending off Hidan and Kakazu for most of it and protecting the weaker members of Team 10 besides it’s not like he was struggling to keep up.
Yeah he was fending them off, not making any real progress toward taking them down. It literally takes him 2 Raikiris just to neutralize one of Kakuzu's basic elemental attacks.
Ehhhhh Hidan who's slower than Kakuzu showed relativity to him and Kakuzu overpowered his Water Style and slammed him into the ground then literally blitzed him when he merged with his hearts.
Naruto had the benefit of coming in after Hidan left and didn’t really match Kakazu physically outside of his RS and making creative use of his Shadow Clones to tag him.
He was still fast enough to tag Kakuzu twice even after Kakuzu saw him behind him.
Not really, the narrative is pointing towards Naruto learning how to manage in fights against Akatsuki lvl opponents w/o relying on Kurama to bail him out a plot point that carried from the last arc.
The more prominent narrative was him surpassing Kakashi considering there's 2 direct statements for it and one indirect statement when he was talking to Kakuzu about the new generation surpassing the previous right after he declared that Naruto surpassed him.
Kakashi vs Naruto is more intentionally left in ambiguity until Naruto undeniably surpasses him in the Pain Arc.
Is it really so ambiguous?
We even see in the Pain Arc that Kakashi can perform far better than Base Naruto against Pain.
Can he? Base Naruto went toe to toe with Tendo in cqc and Tendo reacted to and tagged Kakashi multiple times. PA Kakashi may also be stronger than AS Kakashi but I digress.
Naruto overpowering Kakashi while he’s using an inferior jutsu doesn't show that Naruto is superior.
it just shows how powerful a change in chakra Nature can make a jutsu.
Not inherently, but it shows that it isn't inconsistent. Naruto without his strongest jutsu can both overpower Kakashi and damage him enough that he needs to wrap up his hand days later. For sure it means that Naruto's AP with his stronger attacks is far superior to Kakashi with his.
something Kakashi can also do with his Raikiri but didn’t in that instance because it was meant to be a training exercise.
The Rasengan is comparable to Chidori in power.
Naruto fought Kakuzu in Kn0. The anime is the only medium that kept his Eyes blue. Kishimoto colored them red in the DB.
Yeah, so KM0 Naruto definitely surpassed him as he said, and Base Naruto may surpass him as he also said.
Edit: Also, the context in Kakashi stating Naruto
“Surpassed” him or
“may surpass him” has always been around Ninjutsu. Not “Overall”.
In the first instance he's talking about both his strategic abilities and jutsu. And his Rasenshuriken can be the tipping point that makes him stronger than Kakashi, while he's relative to him otherwise, which makes his statement about Naruto being as strong or stronger than him more consistent since that's definitely not referring to their ninjutsu APs, in which Naruto is definitively and greatly superior.
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