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Damn, I read through that chapter trying to find that exact statement and didn’t see it. Good job catching that.Hashirama flat out said "Madara's regaining his past strength" after Madara blitzed SM Hashirama. EMS Madara is underrated
On one hand, yeah, but on the other they technically never swapped hands and Hashirama didn't use the Shinsusenju, so idk.He should be stronger than Alive Base Hashirama since he tied with Edo Sage Mode Hashirama.
Rasa straight up said the power of Shukaku, and considering that he knows Gaara uses sand, I don’t see why he’d immediately assume it was Shukaku just on the basis of it being a lot of sand and not the power of it, like he said. Also later in the arc, Gaara states that he’s Shukaku’s equal.> Rasa, upon seeing Gaara’s sand, stated that it was the power of Shukaku.
Isn't it possible that's because it is huge manipulation of sand? The one thing done uniquely be Gaara and nobody else in the series aside from Shukaku? Seems easy to mistake it for being Shukaku even if it wasn't as powerful as the Biju.
Rasa straight up said the power of Shukaku, and considering that he knows Gaara uses sand, I don’t see why he’d immediately assume it was Shukaku just on the basis of it being a lot of sand and not the power of it, like he said. Also later in the arc, Gaara states that he’s Shukaku’s equal.
As well as Gaara’s. Which Rasa knows. So again, I don’t see why he’d assume it’s Shukaku based on nothing but it being sand.
Mei is honestly pretty consistent, I don’t think she has any anti-feats other than fighting Zetsu, who is a Varies.honestly, I think the Kage should be evaluated case to case and how consistent their track record is.
some Kage I can possibly believe scaling just based on their consistent performance like Gaara.
I'm not so sure about Mei
Well, to be fair, Madara was casual against everyone. And remember, she could also melt his Susano’o ribcage.Mei's best feats Imo seem to be either ignoring durability with Acid, countering Casual fireballs and then surviving the susanoo which I feel like could be argued PIS or madara holding back.
How is acid durability negation though? Also for her not to be considered consistently on that level, we need to find anti-feats for her, but as far as I know she doesn't have any.Mei's best feats Imo seem to be either ignoring durability with Acid, countering Casual fireballs and then surviving the susanoo which I feel like could be argued PIS or madara holding back.
In contrast gaara is far more consistent and has statements to back up those feats aswell.
He uses the same sand for both offense and defense though, as stated by Deidara during the Kazekage Rescue Arc. Although if you want an actual AP feat, his sand hands were having a prolonged struggle with Madara as he tried to drag Shukaku into the Gedō Mazō. This went on long enough for Shukaku to have a flashback, so it’s not like Gaara only held it for a second. These chains were previously able to drag Gyūki to the ground, by the way.@LordTracer; in terms of durability, I can grant you that, but Gaara doesn't have the AP feats to match up to it IMO.
I just reread the chapter and she melts it with lava, not Acid my bad.How is acid durability negation though? Also for her not to be considered consistently on that level, we need to find anti-feats for her, but as far as I know she doesn't have any.
The thing is Rasa literally thought that Gaara had transformed into full Shukaku, and Rasa himself can battle and defeat Shukaku, so Gaara is at least Shukaku level> Rasa, upon seeing Gaara’s sand, stated that it was the power of Shukaku.
Isn't it possible that's because it is huge manipulation of sand? The one thing done uniquely by Shukaku and nobody else in the series aside from Gaara? Seems easy to mistake it for being Shukaku even if it wasn't as powerful as the Biju.
So, are you good with the Five Kage scaling then?I just reread the chapter and she melts it with lava, not Acid my bad.
Why not? There are countless examples of the 5 kage taking attacks and damaging Madaras Susanoo, and Madara even in base is 6-C.Kages will not scale to Bijū. Don't even waste your time. Discuss something reliable.
Gaara also matched Rasa, so that's pretty clear cut.The thing is Rasa literally thought that Gaara had transformed into full Shukaku, and Rasa himself can battle and defeat Shukaku, so Gaara is at least Shukaku level
Yes, I think the acid was used on Sasuke iirc. I had forgotten myself, so no worries.I just reread the chapter and she melts it with lava, not Acid my bad.
Madara isn't 6-C in base.Why not? There are countless examples of the 5 kage taking attacks and damaging Madaras Susanoo, and Madara even in base is 6-C.
Not really, cause Sasuke never really did any damage to them without Susano’o or Chidori (and we already established that Raiton chakra enhances slicing/piercing ability). At worst, it would mean MS Sasuke’s Chidori and Susano’o is 6-C. But his normal physicals are still 7-A.wouldn't the Kage being 6-C here kinda hurt some of the scaling in the Five Kage summit ?
How so? Sasuke didn't do anything to any of them, except Ay which was done with Amaterasu which is either durability negation or just separate AP from his usual abilities.wouldn't the Kage being 6-C here kinda hurt some of the scaling in the Five Kage summit ?
Sasuke wouldn't get 6-C period lol, he pierced a casual V1 Ay and did zero damage, and he only ever threatened Ay due to Amaterasu, so there's no conflict with Kage summit scaling.Was A in V1 or V2 when Sasuke pierced him with the Chidori? Cause if it was V1, then he wouldn’t even get 6-C via Chidori, only the Susano’o.
Oh, it was V1 A. Then yeah, Sasuke doesn’t scale at all.Sasuke wouldn't get 6-C period lol, he pierced a casual V1 Ay and did zero damage, and he only ever threatened Ay due to Amaterasu, so there's no conflict with Kage summit scaling.
Then just debunk it. These threads are for the purpose of discussion and debate, so go ahead and say your point of view and support it with evidence. Saying "lol nope" isn't enough when so much evidence was presented.Now I want to know who approved this shit scaling with Biju. Don't think it's easy like that. I am not in favor of scaling Biju to Kages and shit like that. You don't have my support and this wasnt approved.
It straight up did though. Just because you don’t like it, that doesn’t mean it was rejected.Debunk what? Nothing got accepted. Don't pretend that this is an easy thing to get approved.