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Naruto God Tiers Downgrade (Continued)
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no no, it is an artist mistake, the mark is meant to be gone.
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Hmmmmmm
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You will have to prove is a mistake. Please post a link to the interview where it was said to be a mistake.Rocker1189 said:
Hate to bring this up, but a mistake would be Kubo placing Shunsui with both eyes on the manga when he lost his eye earlier and had an eye patch. Correction for that mistake were made in the volume release and his eye patch was added. Can someone bring a scan of the volume for this page? It shouldn't be there if it's an artist mistake.
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The seals returned to Hagoromo after CT was performed.
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Tata did a good job with his debunking. I'll start countering the minor points Imade made against me in a bit. However, before I get to that, something I noticed and im surprised this wasnt brought up already.
After Hagoromo regains the seals, Sasuke is noted by Kurama to be on the level of Hagoromo's power when fighting Naruto when absorbing chakra from the 9 biju . This should also be great supporting evidence that Sasuke and Naruto didnt lose the chakra Hagoromo gave to them.
Because how in the hell would Sasuke be able to reach Hagoromo's level if....he lost the very strength Hagoromo gave to him when losing the moon seal?
After Hagoromo regains the seals, Sasuke is noted by Kurama to be on the level of Hagoromo's power when fighting Naruto when absorbing chakra from the 9 biju . This should also be great supporting evidence that Sasuke and Naruto didnt lose the chakra Hagoromo gave to them.
Because how in the hell would Sasuke be able to reach Hagoromo's level if....he lost the very strength Hagoromo gave to him when losing the moon seal?
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@AppleLord
Here you go.
Here you go.
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Yeah we brought it up before, Imade said the only way they were similar was him doing the reverse of what Hagoromo does, which makes no sense actually.
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It's edited in the Tankobo jump to 44
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Are we all at least agreed now that there shouldn't be a seperate key for Base/Rinnegan Sasuke as an Adult, since I've proven that Sasuke never deactivates his Rinnegan canonically, at any point?
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^There shouldn't be.
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He was replying to my post.AppleLord said:
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No,I replied to @A Stoned Orc.
It was shown how seals returned to Hagoromo and disappered from their hands.
Can you show a scan where Sasuke has a moon seal?
It was shown how seals returned to Hagoromo and disappered from their hands.
Can you show a scan where Sasuke has a moon seal?
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Its a sun and a moon and yeah, it was a mistake.AppleLord said:
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But is there. Maybe Viz did wrong by removing it. Is there a quote from some official saying that it shouldn't be there?
Or you know, the artist forgot that they lose that thing.
Or you know, the artist forgot that they lose that thing.
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Agree with thisA Stoned Orc said:
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Forgot about that,lol.
Forgot about that,lol.
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Really? I remember it was depicted as a sun when Hags gave them the seals and in the anime it was a sun too.
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You will have to prove is a mistake.
It was fixed in the tankobon release. I believed the same thing before I found out it was a mistake.
It was fixed in the tankobon release. I believed the same thing before I found out it was a mistake.
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Is the 5-B stuff finally done?
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To be honest, even if we ignore the potential issues that have been pointed out with the scaling, the calc for Hagoromo's feat in and out of itself is flawed because the timeframes come from literally nowhere.
We originally used the anime's status of secondary canon to try and put a timeframe of less than an hour and 30 minutes, but if you actually watch the episode there is nothing suggesting that. The moon is thrown into the sky in the early night, we can see it's still in the stratosphere, and then the scene cuts to an unspecified amount of time later in the night, where it has reached its position.
You could probably calc how much it rose into the atmosphere in a few minutes but it wouldn't lead to it reaching 384,400km in 30 minutes. Not even close.
We originally used the anime's status of secondary canon to try and put a timeframe of less than an hour and 30 minutes, but if you actually watch the episode there is nothing suggesting that. The moon is thrown into the sky in the early night, we can see it's still in the stratosphere, and then the scene cuts to an unspecified amount of time later in the night, where it has reached its position.
You could probably calc how much it rose into the atmosphere in a few minutes but it wouldn't lead to it reaching 384,400km in 30 minutes. Not even close.
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We do have one last 5-B feat. By madara.
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The manga stated it was blasted into space and if I remember correctly that's where the time frames came from because it said blasted
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Pretty convienent that now "timeframe is wrong" is just now being brought up when everything else was countered. No offense.
Anyway, that blog from the looks of it had huge debate on the timeframe, so I doubt it just "came from literally nowhere" as your trying to make it out to be.
Anyway, that blog from the looks of it had huge debate on the timeframe, so I doubt it just "came from literally nowhere" as your trying to make it out to be.
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You should have told us about this earlier, Kep. Back when the calc was actually made.
But I did point out something similar early on, and got run over. I also misrembered the events of the episode. I actually believed that Hagoromo and Hamura had sealed the moon when the sun was setting and that it had reached its current position by early night, which would suggest a low timeframe. In fact, my original post wasn't going to be about the calc being wrong. I was replying to the point about Indra and Ashura and was going to point out how it is self-debunking to use to support 5-B. The timeframe being wrong was something I noticed when I rewatched the episode literally just now.
But I did point out something similar early on, and got run over. I also misrembered the events of the episode. I actually believed that Hagoromo and Hamura had sealed the moon when the sun was setting and that it had reached its current position by early night, which would suggest a low timeframe. In fact, my original post wasn't going to be about the calc being wrong. I was replying to the point about Indra and Ashura and was going to point out how it is self-debunking to use to support 5-B. The timeframe being wrong was something I noticed when I rewatched the episode literally just now.
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"He transformed [. . .] and hurled it into the sky, and it became the Moon"AstralKing7 said:
They never say blasted.
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Hurled isn't too far bad as well if we wanna be honest
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This. "Hurled it" into the sky also implies it was done in a quick timeframe.AstralKing7 said:
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