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Murata declares his own statements not "Word of God"
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Seriously, over something like say, trying to be accurate on the site, you attempt to stir a pot by saying "I'm glad to see him downgraded"Udlmaster said:
That's shallow, no matter how you put it.
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"I'm actually glad to see OPM downgraded downgraded because people want him so hard"
Yes, because if someone saying "muh omnipotent character" and they get downgraded, it's funny to the people who say he's omnipotent, that's the joke.
If you want me to claify:
"It's funny because people are saying he's Omnipotent and will use anything to say he's Omnipotent and can one punch anyone, so when feats that are used based purely on the fact it was said by the Word of God is now seen as not Word of God, it's funny, because he's getting further from Omnipotent."
>I also don't see how one person calling Saitama omnipotent is anything but a poor reason to want to see a verse downgraded, but whatever, let's stop derailing.
No, it's not a reason to see the verse downgraded, it's funny in the face of the people who call him Omnipotent and say he can beat anyone.
You're making it out that I've said: "This one guy called him Omnipotent, so the whole verse should be downgraded." all I said was It makes me glad to see it downgraded because it's funny to those who think he's Omnipotent.
Yes, because if someone saying "muh omnipotent character" and they get downgraded, it's funny to the people who say he's omnipotent, that's the joke.
If you want me to claify:
"It's funny because people are saying he's Omnipotent and will use anything to say he's Omnipotent and can one punch anyone, so when feats that are used based purely on the fact it was said by the Word of God is now seen as not Word of God, it's funny, because he's getting further from Omnipotent."
>I also don't see how one person calling Saitama omnipotent is anything but a poor reason to want to see a verse downgraded, but whatever, let's stop derailing.
No, it's not a reason to see the verse downgraded, it's funny in the face of the people who call him Omnipotent and say he can beat anyone.
You're making it out that I've said: "This one guy called him Omnipotent, so the whole verse should be downgraded." all I said was It makes me glad to see it downgraded because it's funny to those who think he's Omnipotent.
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No I didn't. You even quoted me and then... proceeded to misquote me?Udlmaster said:
I said: "...is anything but a poor reason to want to see a verse downgraded"
If you want to continue this, please do so on my wall as this is derailing the thread.
On topic: I agree with Saitama scaling vastly above the CSRC from Boros
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You're smart enough to know a "joke" like that can poss people, off, a joke was meant to be funny I thought.
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Agreed, Murata has multiple times given different answers to ONE in interviews, has told interviewers to go ask ONE for answers to various questions and really doesn't do much besides redrawing the Webcomic, though he is in touch with ONE, it's iffy at best to take his statements as WOG.
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@people discussing "glad to see it getting downgraded' stuff
Digress please. That's enough derailment. We don't wanna make a mountain out of a molehill. If you have anything to say, kindly take it to respective personal message walls.
Thank you.
Digress please. That's enough derailment. We don't wanna make a mountain out of a molehill. If you have anything to say, kindly take it to respective personal message walls.
Thank you.
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the manga is the highest canon for OPM. you're misunderstanding how the manga is written. Murata isn't the "main guy doing it". that's not the case at all. ONE does the storyboards and writes 99% of the material, even in the manga. Murata simply just gets the storyboards and redraws it. Even when he comes up with his own things (which is quite rare), he always gets ONE's approval before it's officially published. So even for the manga, ONE comes up with 99% of the material, not murata. so yeah, the manga is indeed the highest canon. so if something is in the manga, it's fine to consider it canon.DMUA said:
HOWEVER, the statements from murata in the STREAMS, is the problem here. obviously he doesn't need approval from ONE for every little statement, so the statements from the streams is the iffy part, but the manga is 100% canon.
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Who could this be.
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@Gargoyle actually he wouldn't be 500 petatons. We did a discussion thread on life wiping when Kepe did the Bayonetta calc for life wiping. And we agreed that roughly somewhat above 300 petatons would be the life wiping calc that they'd scale to
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Oh okay
Could have sworn Boros was calced to 511
Could have sworn Boros was calced to 511
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He was, until we had a discussion regarding this calc. https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1829165#121
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They're regarded as the same thing.
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>Downgrade
>Sub rela God tier
>Nardo is faster than Saitama
Heresy!
>Sub rela God tier
>Nardo is faster than Saitama
Heresy!
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@Causality Nardo is kid jesus. Your argument is invalid. OvO
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As I linked in my suggestion point, the Serious Punch has been calced to be a few exatons in power. So he wouldn't need to scale from Boros AP wise.Huesito88 said:
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Doesn't say. It may need to be redone or looked over again.
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How come some of the characters were downgraded? I just checked PPP and Genos, and they are waaaay weaker than their previous 7-B MHS+ ratings. Was there something wrong with Genos' 7-B calc?
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@SheevShezarrine Genos' mountain feat was considered an outlier and people no longer scale to Atomic Samurai unless they have explicitly reacted to him or have reliably tagged him. The bullets were also proven to only require hypersonic reaction speed in order to perceive in case that also comes up.
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At least Saitama would be decently into his tier now...why am I saying "at least", that's way better for the guy.
Btw, what's the value of Flashy's speed in SoL?
Btw, what's the value of Flashy's speed in SoL?
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@Andytrenom Calc. His speed is being faster than two guys with 5.7% light speed movement
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Garou should probably be sub-rel+ still. We don't usually upscale speed like that.
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The Atomic Samurai thing makes sense, but there are a few problems with the Genos downgrade and general S Class/Dragon level downgrade 1.) It was one of his first feats in the series, so it's more an establishing feat than an outlier 2.) While Demon levels are still in the clear as far as being reconcilable eith the series Threat Level, having Dragon levels, which are described as a threat to multiple cities, be only Large Town Level as opposed to Mountain Level like they were previously makes comparatively little senseQawsedf234 said:
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> It was one of his first feats in the series, so it's more an establishing feat than an outlier
It was agreed that it was an outlier because nothing else Genos does or anyone that scales to him ever comes close to this level of power. Even other Dragon level threats like Vaccine Man and Beefcake have worse feats and calcs.
It was agreed that it was an outlier because nothing else Genos does or anyone that scales to him ever comes close to this level of power. Even other Dragon level threats like Vaccine Man and Beefcake have worse feats and calcs.
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Not to mention that the idea of a city getting nuked in an instant made the hero association guy go all completely Nani, even building busts are potrayed as "wah look at mah powaaaa!1!1!1!1!1!"
I'd have to point out that these building feats are also done by some mooks that aren't exactly needing S class levels
> B or lower rank Hammerhead mook knocking down a literal skyscraper
> Three Eyed ghost was literally bigger than a building
Everything else you said is about right.
I'd have to point out that these building feats are also done by some mooks that aren't exactly needing S class levels
> B or lower rank Hammerhead mook knocking down a literal skyscraper
> Three Eyed ghost was literally bigger than a building
Everything else you said is about right.
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Hammerhead was a B-Class criminal before he got the suits . Meaning that his feats in the armor do not properly reflect his bounty. Three-Eyed Ghost being bigger than a building is only a 9-A thing iirc, with his kinetic energy
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That makes it even worse. That means the B class rank is evne higher. It doesn't reflect the bounty alright, it increases it. It just shows how much better he is.
I find it hard to compare destroying a building so casually or tossing a building so casually to be much of an issue. But busy rn, and rather not get off topic. IS everything summarized here?
I find it hard to compare destroying a building so casually or tossing a building so casually to be much of an issue. But busy rn, and rather not get off topic. IS everything summarized here?
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> It just shows how much better he is.
They never even increased the Bounty. They only sent a C-Class guy after them and didn't send anyone else. Hammerhead normally is a B-Class bounty, but higher by an unknown degree in his armor
> I find it hard to compare destroying a building so casually or tossing a building so casually to be much of an issue.
Three Eyed Ghost never tossed a building, just rammed into one. Also I don't remebmer a Tiger level threat thorwing a building.
> IS everything summarized here?
Here and here
They never even increased the Bounty. They only sent a C-Class guy after them and didn't send anyone else. Hammerhead normally is a B-Class bounty, but higher by an unknown degree in his armor
> I find it hard to compare destroying a building so casually or tossing a building so casually to be much of an issue.
Three Eyed Ghost never tossed a building, just rammed into one. Also I don't remebmer a Tiger level threat thorwing a building.
> IS everything summarized here?
Here and here
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