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Light dragon yeah...we went through this with you unironically about a dozen times dude
How many times do you need to hear the scaling
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Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread
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How many times do you need to hear the scaling
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@Dust_Collector your ālinkā heh.. isnāt working btw, but like I said, if you got lore implications that Gloom affects you on contact you have an argument for Ganon resisting.
@Tyloxtus why the hell does FF beating Zelda mean that much to you? They barely have much in common. Breath of Fire is a better RPG to compare since they actually have some similarities.
@Chariot190 tone it down please, I know you can be a bit frustrated but letās not blow this out of proportions.
@Tyloxtus why the hell does FF beating Zelda mean that much to you? They barely have much in common. Breath of Fire is a better RPG to compare since they actually have some similarities.
@Chariot190 tone it down please, I know you can be a bit frustrated but letās not blow this out of proportions.
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That was the toned down version, Nobody here wants to listen how Zelda isn't some ultra tier 0 verse and how it loses to FF, GBF, and ter suc verses for the fifth time this week, nor is that a good mindset to even have in this hobby, you might like a verse but getting hung up over if something beats it is just dumb, of course your verse is gonna lose to shit, and honestly, does it even matter? It's just a hobby, it isn't something to get hung up on, let alone actively complain about, that shit just isn't heathy, especially when matches are meant to just be a fun side thing.
I feel like my comment is getting grossly blown out of proportion here, maybe I'm just a boomer but I feel like what I said was a nicer way of saying stop having FF and big numbers living rent free
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Then tone it down further. He can express whatever he wants. You don't like it? Don't engage it. Simple as that.
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That is a nicer way to put it. See? You can do it.stop having FF and big numbers living rent free
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Ok we CLEARLY have differing opinions on what is nicer.
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My apologies for seeming condescending.
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Condescending imo.
Not that it matters, don't know about you but I'd rather just be told to **** off and stop getting hung up on big number and derailing stuff for the 10th time this week than have honestly, pretty unhinged meme slang to just say the same thing while hiding behind a veil of "it's just a joke" in a even more rude and demeaning way.
There is a difference between being blunt, and being aggressive
But that's just my opinion, clearly we differ, and this sure as **** ain't the place to talk about it so let's drop it given nobody wants to see this shit on the funny Nintendo game thread.
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Then why do you keep complaining about how Zelda loses to FF, GBF, and so on as if that affects the actual profile-making or process
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Closing the gap shouldn't be a priority dude, whether Zelda is 2-C or like 8-B, actually making it accurate should be more important than if Ganon gets mogged by cactor (he probably does depending on the cactor ngl).
And I say this as a warning to not get hung up on shit, some stuff def needs a few downgrades here and there, a few upgrades to be had too of course, but whether things get a buff or a downgrade, actually being indexed properly is what's more important, like we don't want a repeat of Novel Kars or MGSin which case, which of you mfs know the density of a splash of water, need to cook a zelda calc
And I say this as a warning to not get hung up on shit, some stuff def needs a few downgrades here and there, a few upgrades to be had too of course, but whether things get a buff or a downgrade, actually being indexed properly is what's more important, like we don't want a repeat of Novel Kars or MGS
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Yup I can second this, you're too hung up on vsmatches and making sure you stick it to one fandom over another. Bigger number isn't the point, indexing accurately and effectively is this wikis primary purpose
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I don't hate them, I want us to be good enough to deserve to fight them. And by us I mean the characters.
Also what was the Novel Kars situation
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I didn't say you hated them, I'm just saying don't worry about it it is actually not a big deal, every verse loses to something, unironically, only ONE verse in existence doesn't lose to some other verse, and said verse is changing all the time.
And why even care about that? At the end of the day, whether Sephiroth obliterates Vaati
Look at his history, bro used to be like ******* 2-C, like I can get why, if you look at the statements in a vacuum anyway, but that shit is way more nuanced
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The best way you should look at it isn't "Man it sucks all these characters are stronger than Zelda", it should be "Wow thank god there's so many characters that one shot Vaati"
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@Dust_Collector I'll do you one better, don't think "damn Zelda's too weak", just think "damn Zelda can get some based AF matches" cough cough
@Tyloxtus Yeah no you need to not let an internet debate get to your head, Zelda can be tier 0 or tier 20 and who honestly cares so long as its at least well sourced and is well researched, plus whether or not Link slaps fiction doesn't change the quality of the games.
@Tyloxtus Yeah no you need to not let an internet debate get to your head, Zelda can be tier 0 or tier 20 and who honestly cares so long as its at least well sourced and is well researched, plus whether or not Link slaps fiction doesn't change the quality of the games.
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Also uh looking at that profile again after so long, man that beast weight calc needs a recalc
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Every non-canon piece of media giving Majora a 3-A to low 2-C feat because
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which ones? I only know the whole Majora Dragon dancing and creating time (which is mad goofy like who thought of thisEvery non-canon piece of media giving Majora a 3-A to low 2-C feat because
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Dark Horse tried to cook some ******* dumb as shit "uh termina IS an alt dimension, but majora reality warped that world and created everything in it and changed its history to reflect its own and uh" among other things, which like lmao nah dude, the existence of Tatl, the Great Fairy and ******* Jim of all things shoot that down based on the timeline presented in the actual game (Skull kid has only had the Mask for a little over a month).
Japanese websites have some sussy stuff too ive been digging into, there's some actual HEFTY lore I think quite a lot of you would like, that actually checks out with te game and another source I've found toofor link tho, some of the high end stuff ive come across im like ehhh idk
And the manga dragon creating time and then having the world vanish into a black void on death is also kind of ****** but everyone knows that, I plan on doing a Majora and Hero of Time manga profile thoi even bought all of the tp manga to get scans (Moon in the manga is also the world of Majora's soul and created by him, but that doesn't have any statements putting it that high in size).
Japanese websites have some sussy stuff too ive been digging into, there's some actual HEFTY lore I think quite a lot of you would like, that actually checks out with te game and another source I've found too
And the manga dragon creating time and then having the world vanish into a black void on death is also kind of ****** but everyone knows that, I plan on doing a Majora and Hero of Time manga profile tho
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@Dalesean027 I was there Dalesean, I was there 3000 years ago when the InFAMOUS spam was at its peak, when the Beast reign supreme over others.
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Also TP Manga Shade is him like HOLY ****.
He straight up calls TP Link out on being a bitch and tells him to grow the **** up and stop being an angsty teenand manifests himself to throw hands with Ganondorf at the end
He straight up calls TP Link out on being a bitch and tells him to grow the **** up and stop being an angsty teen
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I always had the thought that the whole Termina being created by the mask is mad goofy, considering it also highly contradicts the official material. Btw does it say anything in the original Japanese Hyrule Historia?
It would be gucci to have it
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Couldn't he just solo Ganondorf actually?
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Japanese HH is very, very, close to english, just minor wording differences for the most part for 95% of it. At least for the shit I checked and translated, I didn't touch some sections.
And you will, it is cooking, hard
Ghost rules and no because he no longer has the MS or ToC, TP Link does, he even flatout says he WOULD take the burden off TP Link if he could, but ToC choose him, so he can't. He just summons himself to stop Ganon from killing TP Link and they do a combo attack.
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cause it contradicts stuff iirc
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Because it isn't canon? At all? Like that shit evidently did not happen, Link never had a baby Volvagia as a pet and was forced to fight it as an adult (in game Volvagia was an ancient dragon an old goron hero killed long ago, that Ganon revived in present to torment the gobon race).
Worded pretty explicitly it's just an adaption by the authors.
Never acknowledged by Nintendo to have any actual canonicity. No statements saying it's canon. NEVER even implied to be canon.
The manga is just its own thing based on the games, but half the time very loosely, even inventing whole new dudes.
Inversely, that's what ZE or HH are, they're secondary canon, supplementary material.
Also again, stop with the FF, they have reasons (probably), likely have some multiverse statements or something saying the game is canon.
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"Uh actually the manga is canon since Ganon has corrosive blood in the LTTP adaptation like he does in TOTK"
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The champions and such likely ain't a higher level of 7-B given they need help to barely stall a blight Ganon, Link, Zelda, and Calamity Ganon tho absolutely are a higher level of 7-B tho
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Assuming youāre talking about the champions
A: Why would that matter, they donāt go through any meaningful power ups, B: No, it happens towards the lategame.
A: Why would that matter, they donāt go through any meaningful power ups, B: No, it happens towards the lategame.
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