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Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

Chariot can handle that👀

I'll keep doing other games after I finish up doing tears stuff and helping out there.
 
I'm handling MM, and might do MC later just because I spent 40$ for that service and I may as well use it.
But I can't really think of many LS feats/statements off the top of my head above Class M beyond like, 5 mountain moving statements all worded differently too, so they obviously have OOT Link as >Class T for OOT Link.
 
Chariot190 said:
I'm handling MM, and might do MC later just because I spent 40$ for that service and I may as well use it.
But I can't really think of many LS feats/statements off the top of my head above Class M beyond like, 5 mountain moving statements all worded differently too, so they obviously have OOT Link as >Class T for OOT Link.
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If you need additional help with MC I can start playing it as well since I also have the same shit though it'll be my first time on that game ever
 
Do PH/ST, there's a handful of shit in those games that need to be calced and looked at, but those games lowkey the middest Zelda's so **** if I'm making that commitment ST has the best overworld theme tho
 
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We were, but, unfortunately, someone has to do those games and it sure as **** ain't gonna be me. Just illegally download use your capcard on a DS bro.
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Magic.
just copy the image url in the frug chat and drop the url into "Insert Image (Ctrl+P)"
 
Shmeatywerbenmanjenson said:
Phantom Hourglass?

I played that all the time on my old DS

I'd gladly play through it again
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As long as you can readily record footage for clips and citations (like abilities and scans and stuff), be my guest. Getting a non-hyper inflated bomb calc would be cool too, could even be the highest bomb yield of any game.
 
Emulating it would probably be best anyway, less difficult to record clips that way, save states for keypoints to test shit, and can get the footage in higher resolution.
 
I literally just learned emulation tonight starting with Tears

I'm very new to it

Most I did was manage to get MGQ running on my anrdoid when I was like 15

Any recommendation for recording software?
 
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Qawsedf234 said:
It was accepted at some point since everyone's Class E lifting strength comes from that.
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I remember there being split opinions on it being actual moon sized or not but can't recall reaching an agreement on it. I think Class E is just a holdover from when all our Zelda profiles were just copy pasted from the OBD wiki.
 
The only street tiers worth making profiles for are like normal monsters and with maybe a handful of exceptions we ain't making profiles for each games versions of the street tier mooks.
 
Then what was the question? You asked which game needs profiles for street tiers the most badly and I answered there's not a specific one in need since generally most street tiers would include multiple games in their profiles and there's almost no unique street tier characters for any specific game worth making a profile for, what did I misunderstand?
 
If you make bad or extremely barebones profiles they're just gonna be deleted.

Which is what most of the Zelda street dudes fall under, there's less than ten that actually warrant a profile, and they wouldn't even be street tiers, they'd be a tad higher like Groose. Only really monsters deserve one and that's just due to a number of appearances and scaling bit feats.
Tyloxtus said:
You didn't say none of them need any, you just said their profiles shouldn't be made.
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Yes, they shouldn't be made, because they don't need any.
 
I didn't say that, I said if you make a bad one, they will be deleted, not that they will be bad inherently.
Which they will be, not of any fault of your own, but because the source material itself does not give enough to justify the creation of such a thing.
 
also ive seen that eagus profile bro, there's a good reason why the guidelines state you should have others check out the sandbox first before publishing
 
The first one is actual ass, idk why we doing that the bombs aren't even the same type, but TOTK gives even better scaling (OOT Bombs are directly stated to be as powerful as Bomb Flowers, which feature heavily in TOTK with wild feats).
And the second, I'm cooking, got beamos calcs for Child Link, Mikau, Darmani and lone Deku, all of which are actually better than TP, I'll put Dale at gunpoint when the time comes to eval, just be patient.
 
Chariot190 said:
The first one is actual ass, idk why we doing that the bombs aren't even the same type, but TOTK gives even better scaling (OOT Bombs are directly stated to be as powerful as Bomb Flowers, which feature heavily in TOTK with wild feats).
And the second, I'm cooking, got beamos calcs for Child Link, Mikau, Darmani and lone Deku, all of which are actually better than TP, I'll put Dale at gunpoint when the time comes to eval, just be patient.
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But why would we scale OoT bomb flowers to TOTK bomb flowers? TOTK takes place more than 10,000 years later, they could have evolved or grown stronger over several millenia. Bomb Flowers in OoT can blow up big boulders and reduce them to fragments which are kinda big, and in TOTK the explosions seem to do a lot more damage to rocks
 
Because they're still bomb flowers, nothing is different about them tbh. If they evolved or adapted they'd probably just tell us tha happened like with most other things besides, it isn't like bomb flowers evolved in any other game's long time gap. If it looks like a duck, and all that. i think there might even be a statement saying bomb flowers are more or less "ancient" unearthed plants in totk

I am well aware of that feat, but you also gotta realize we're talking about a 1997 game and a 2023 game. Bomb flowers have feats that could be interpreted as higher than TOTK ones, like vaporizing things too, it's not that simple.
and TOTK and ALTTP establish that there's different types of rock, bomb flowers in TOTK can only shatter the weakest type, stuff like blue rocks take barely any damage.
 
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Because they're still bomb flowers, nothing is different about them tbh. If they evolved or adapted they'd probably just tell us tha happened like with most other things besides, it isn't like bomb flowers evolved in any other game's long time gap. If it looks like a duck, and all that. i think there might even be a statement saying bomb flowers are more or less "ancient" unearthed plants in totk

I am well aware of that feat, but you also gotta realize we're talking about a 1997 game and a 2023 game. Bomb flowers have feats that could be interpreted as higher than TOTK ones, like vaporizing things too, it's not that simple.
and TOTK and ALTTP establish that there's different types of rock, bomb flowers in TOTK can only shatter the weakest type, stuff like blue rocks take barely any damage.
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I know its a 1997 game but its not like the game's engine couldn't handle smaller fragments. I don't think they need to confirm that they adapted or evolved, that's kind of a default assumption. I think at best it should be "possibly comparable to TOTK bomb flowers"
 
Hypertornado099 said:
I know its a 1997 game but its not like the game's engine couldn't handle smaller fragments.
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Actually, you'd be shocked. The N64 chugs quite a bit especially for particle effects, it's why Link can only have 3 bombs at once, and why blowing up a bunch of grass causes stutters.
But no my point is you're comparing a feat from 1997 to 2023 and saying because while one looks better it means they can't scale between each other, while ignoring the fact both feats are done by the same object. Like MM Bombs can vaporize people (confirmed equal to bomb flowers) but bomb flowers can't vaporize anything in TOTK, so does that mean TOTK bomb flowers are actually weaker? Not really.
I don't think they need to confirm that they adapted or evolved, that's kind of a default assumption. I think at best it should be "possibly comparable to TOTK bomb flowers"
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That's the thing though, there is no "OOT" or "TOTK" bomb flowers, they're just bomb flowers. It's the same thing.
And as for evolving, I mean ngl, this isn't like Ruto's evolving. There exists zero implication or reason to assume bombs flowers evolved to be way stronger or even a hint they did to begin with, especially as they were hidden for eons.
It's just "they have a feat that's higher in a new game" as the reason, which comes off as more incredulous than anything.

Take the Golden Gauntlets for example, they have way better feats in OOT than in AlttP, but despite that, they're confirmed to be literally the same item.
 
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