Bobsican
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From this thread the KH guys (including myself) had a lot of talk regarding the current status on tiering of the series and how Melody of Memory made us notice a notable flaw in the scaling.
Basically, Ansem back in KHI wasn't amped by KH to begin with, in fact, when he tries to do so, it just finishes him up out of being light, it doesn't help that the calc over KH is below the Zeus calc, and there's no legitimate reason to scale this feat to the cast, let alone Zeus' physical stats to begin with, so the current tier 4 stuff is overall a no.
Now, over tier 3, the same kinda applies, Xehanort never actually used the full power of true KH, and so it can't scale to anyone.
However, true KH should be 2-C, as...
–I want there to be manga and short stories about Organization XIII before they were Nobodies, like those of Roxas’s time afterwards with Hayner and company.
Nomura: First of all, considering manga and short stories, since they’re made when the author’s requests, saying ‘I want to write this’, this isn’t the place to ask for them. Therefore, there’s a possibility if that opinion comes from the writer’s side of it. However, it is dangerous because what is drawn upon in future games may end up conflicting with it. Because of that, if they decide not to do those parts of the game, then maybe it’ll happen.
For the record, there's also this High 6-B calc that seems to have been rejected out of sheer dubiousness, and finally, there's also the 5-A feat over Xehanort moving the moon, which most likely will only scale to top tiers.
Basically, Ansem back in KHI wasn't amped by KH to begin with, in fact, when he tries to do so, it just finishes him up out of being light, it doesn't help that the calc over KH is below the Zeus calc, and there's no legitimate reason to scale this feat to the cast, let alone Zeus' physical stats to begin with, so the current tier 4 stuff is overall a no.
Now, over tier 3, the same kinda applies, Xehanort never actually used the full power of true KH, and so it can't scale to anyone.
However, true KH should be 2-C, as...
- Xehanort's Goal was to rewrite the concepts of Light & Darkness and remake the world. It wasn't just remaking the material world, but resetting Light and Darkness to make them equal, which due to the absurdity of this would requiring affecting both realms, which in prior threads was referred to as 2-C prior. Especially since he refers to both realms & Xehanort refers to world when referring to it being remade as being the Greater World and far more than merely the material world but all the Realms [Light, Darkness, Between] : "At present, the lanes and corridors that run between the worlds may only be traversed by us Keyblade wielders, and those who have given themselves over to darkness. As the former, our duty is to cross the chasms between worlds and guard against the latter, whose darkness corrupts and contaminates, so that no world need ever be lost again.Few Keyblade wielders remain now; I have heard of but a handful of others outside my circle. But the World is vast, and more of our kind may be out there.Now, in addition to the realm of light in which we reside, there is also a realm of darkness, and the realm between which connects the two. The realm of darkness is most forbidden; I am told none who set foot there have ever returned."
- Both Re:Mind and Base KH3 refers to Light & Darkness being impossible to live without the other . In other words if her were to remake the Realm of Light , it would have to remake the Realm of Darkness as well, in other words a jointed feat of 2-C.
–I want there to be manga and short stories about Organization XIII before they were Nobodies, like those of Roxas’s time afterwards with Hayner and company.
Nomura: First of all, considering manga and short stories, since they’re made when the author’s requests, saying ‘I want to write this’, this isn’t the place to ask for them. Therefore, there’s a possibility if that opinion comes from the writer’s side of it. However, it is dangerous because what is drawn upon in future games may end up conflicting with it. Because of that, if they decide not to do those parts of the game, then maybe it’ll happen.
For the record, there's also this High 6-B calc that seems to have been rejected out of sheer dubiousness, and finally, there's also the 5-A feat over Xehanort moving the moon, which most likely will only scale to top tiers.
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