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Real reason please?Voting Sanji because I'm biased and no other reason
Sanji's flames are indeed capable of reaching higher temperatures than King's flames, and he has shown the ability to increase the intensity of his fire based attacks to incredible levels. In this case, IJ would likely be an advantage for Sanji. The increased heat and range of Sanji's flames would make it difficult for King to dodge or defend and could potentially cause significant dmg to King..
Good point Sanji's Mastery with Kenbun would be able to predict King's movements and attacks making it easier for him to evade or counter Kings attacks.
Its def an advantage for Sanji against King, since he could keep up with King's aerial mobility accurately predict his attacks which also his Kenbun could help him avoid any surprise attacks from King or detect any weaknesses in King's Lunarian defenses.
But also its important to note that King is also a skilled user of Haki and would likely be able to sense Sanji's movements and predict his attacks as well. The outcome of the battle would depend on how well Sanji is able to utilize his Kenbun and how well he can counter King's abilities. While Sanji's mastery of Kenbun would be an advantage for him in the fight it wont be a guaranteed victory only bc of it. Sanji would still need to use his other abilities to overcome King range of skills and abilities.
Didn't read enough of the thread and didn't read enough of OP to provide more reasons. My current reasoning happens to be good enoughReal reason please?
It's not sadly. At least read like a page, then come back and give your reasons. FRA is enough too lolDidn't read enough of the thread and didn't read enough of OP to provide more reasons. My current reasoning happens to be good enough
Bro whatwhy does this guy's comment seem so much like an artificial intelligence response...
Unless I'm mistaken King's buso heat resistance should scale to this level via being 5 layers above baseline:Thanks, I'll post the evidence tomorrow but it seems King's Buso heat resistance scales to around the same level as Sanji's Exo + Buso resistance.
Wasn't she trying to block with the RS?It burned her skin, not the Raid Suit.
70% of her body isn't even inside of the raid suit brother.Wasn't she trying to block with the RS?
And I'm grateful to Oda for that.70% of her body isn't even inside of the raid suit brother.
Down terrible.And I'm grateful to Oda for that.
Down terrible.
Down AstronomicallyAnd I'm grateful to Oda for that.
But in all seriousness, she doesn't even look burnt on her skin.
Down terrible.
Down Astronomically
Not sure that's how the raid suit functions, the exposed parts of their bodies are still for whatever reason are considered apart of the raid suit's abilities such as Sanji's Stealth Black which made his whole body invisible even though his face is exposed. Just like how despite being covered in flames in the first scan none of the vinsmokes were burned.It burned her skin, not the Raid Suit.
Hell noYou can't tell me she wouldn't have been a better addition to the crew than Carrot.
The protection of the suits ≠The ability the suit grants to the user's body.Not sure that's how the raid suit functions, the exposed parts of their bodies are still for whatever reason are considered apart of the raid suit's abilities such as Sanji's Stealth Black which made his whole body invisible even though his face is exposed. Just like how despite being covered in flames in the first scan none of the vinsmokes were burned.
Spittin. Especially when Reiju gave that smooch on LuffyYou can't tell me she wouldn't have been a better addition to the crew than Carrot.
I mean Carrot's a cinnamon roll, but Reiju can actually fight.
Maybe I'll do a vs thread between them.
No idea.I'm sorry but why do we automatically assume King's/Zoro's Buso to be above WCI Luffy's?
Can and will. Down cataclysmically.You can't tell me she wouldn't have been a better addition to the crew than Carrot.
I mean Carrot's a cinnamon roll, but Reiju can actually fight.
Maybe I'll do a vs thread between them.
Actually, Eseseso is right, we don't scale layers and heat resistance like that.Anyways, it's this:
King Buso > WCI Luffy Buso > Prometheus Heat > Jinbe Buso > Jinbe > Akainu Aura
Ifrit > Sanji Buso or Exo > Pre Training Sanji Buso > Base Sanji > Diable Jambe > WCI Luffy > Marineford Luffy > Akainu Aura
Reiju: Hey Boa, here's a joke: Luffy's first kiss.Spittin. Especially when Reiju gave that smooch on Luffy
That Meme i have seen it before tooReiju: Hey Boa, here's a joke: Luffy's first kiss.
Hancock: I don't get it.
Reiju: And you never will...
Pretty sure it's accepted in the Buso layer CRT:I'm sorry but why do we automatically assume King's/Zoro's Buso to be above WCI Luffy's?
Stronger Haki means that you can resist hax that harm inferior Haki.
WB can make contact with Akainu who can't be touched by Marco, Vista, and Jinbe.
Katakuri can physically harm Luffy with Haki punches, who can't be harmed by Doflamingo's Haki kicks.
Smoker and Doffy can resist Law's spatial slashes which can affect Tashigi.
This applies over to growing Haki as well. It can grow to the point of resisting abilities that affected it prior.
As all Haki, even the most basic Haki has a resistance or a negation, scaling over it immediately provides you with a layer.
Would have to go back and check but the invisibility granted by Sanji's suit is literally his suit camouflaging with the environment, wouldn't be possible unless the raid suit was able to effect the whole body.The protection of the suits ≠The ability the suit grants to the user's body.
We even separate Sanji's durability from the Raid Suit's durability, as his head got damaged by Zoan King's beak attack but the raid suit didn't due to his face being exposed.
Anyways, it's this:
King Buso > WCI Luffy Buso > Prometheus Heat > Jinbe Buso > Jinbe > Akainu Aura
Ifrit > Sanji Buso or Exo > Pre Training Sanji Buso > Base Sanji > Diable Jambe > WCI Luffy > Marineford Luffy > Akainu Aura
Luffy's heat resistance isn't shown to have improved from Marineford and Zoro's own heat resistance scales relative to Luffy's via punk hazard. Also there's nothing supporting Akainu's aura scaling above Enel's heat, it just scales above it's own feats.Actually, Eseseso is right, we don't scale layers and heat resistance like that.
It's:
King Buso > King Normal Heat Resistance > King Flames > Zoro's Resistance > Zeus heat = Lightning
Ifrit > Sanji Buso or Exo > Pre Training Sanji Buso > Base Sanji > Diable Jambe > WCI Luffy > Marineford Luffy > Akainu Aura >~ Enel heat = Lightning
Yes, the Raid Suit effects the whole body with its ability.Would have to go back and check but the invisibility granted by Sanji's suit is literally his suit camouflaging with the environment, wouldn't be possible unless the raid suit was able to effect the whole body.
When?Zoro's own heat resistance scales relative to Luffy's via punk hazard
This sums it up pretty well.Btw back to the topic imma list some advantages and disadvantages for Sanji and King for this matchup:
Sanji Advantages:
Mastery of Kenbunshoku Haki, Agility, Ifrit Jambe,
Disadvantages:
Vulnerability to Armament Haki, Reliance on kicks, Limited Range
King Advantages:
Physical Strength, Aerial Mobility, Mastery Of Busoshoku Haki
Disadvantages:
Limited CQC Ability, Vulnerability to Kenbunshoku Haki, Potential weakness to fire attacks like Ifrit Jambe
You forgot half of Sanji's advantagesBtw back to the topic imma list some advantages and disadvantages for Sanji and King for this matchup:
Sanji Advantages:
Mastery of Kenbunshoku Haki, Agility, Ifrit Jambe,
Add em since i prolly forgot some of themYou forgot half of Sanji's advantages
Better regen, much higher stamina and better endurance.Add em since i prolly forgot some of them
Speed, intelligence, stamina/endurance, skill, regeneration, heat resistanceAdd em since i prolly forgot some of them
It's on both their profiles for their heat resistance, the environment of punk hazard effected and burned Luffy to around same degree as Zoro.When?
Wait my bad, I thought you said it scales above. That checks out.It's on both their profiles for their heat resistance, the environment of punk hazard effected and burned Luffy to around same degree as Zoro.
Also If I remember right we don't scale Luffy to the heat of Enel's lightning, only his heated up staff.
Agree, Agree bc Sanji thinks strategic which would give him an advantage, agree, agree, agree with regen,Speed, intelligence, stamina/endurance, skill, regeneration, heat resistance
No it doesn't. Sanji's heat resistance scaling is higher than King's.King is immune to fire due to his race and Flame On durability while Sanji's IJ allows him to generate intense flames. While Sanji's IJ may be hotter than King's. King's immunity to fire gives him an advantage in this area