Jotaro (EoH) VS Jiren (DBS)

[The_Legendary_Vin]

He's repelled intangible attacks, though I don't believe he could damage a Stand, due to not being able to see it, I'd have to make sure before I say anything, as Im still unused to your guy's exact systems

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Non-Physical Interaction (Deflected Hit's intangible ki blast that had phased through other objects),

 

[Baken384]

How does Jotaro's Reality Warping even work anyway? Like its the same as Dio but can he use it at range?

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

While he can likely contact the stand, I don't think Jiren would be able to see it

 

[Baken384]

Non-Physical Interaction (Deflected Hit's intangible ki blast that had phased through other objects),

Nah, cant hurt stands with that NPI. Stands are like 1 layer above that since Ghosts aka Spirits couldn't interact with Stands.

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

How does Jotaro's Reality Warping even work anyway? Like its the same as Dio but can he use it at range?

Idk exactly, as Im not that far along, and am risking enourmous spoilers, but I think it's essentially an attack negation/reversal

which is why I say Jiren wins by nuking the planet right off the bat (In character, since he'd see Jotara as weak and not worth his time, and simply would use the easiest and fastest way to dispatch him

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Basically, Can't reverse it if you die instantly, and with equal speed... yeaaaah...

 

[StekFence]

Guys

 

[Baken384]

what

 

[Knifeman29]

How does Jotaro's Reality Warping even work anyway? Like its the same as Dio but can he use it at range?

it's the same type as Heaven DIO's but isn't exactly as powerful
we also dont see him use it much as he got it end the final battle of the game
I think I'm leaning towards Jiren right now

 

[StekFence]

Speed equal means basically nothing if u have a infinite speed weapon, and you yourself are not infinite speed. if Jiren is equalized to Jotaro, then star platinum will still have the exact same speed advantage it has over Jotaro. Which is infinite

 

[Baken384]

it's the same type as Heaven DIO's but isn't exactly as powerful

How is Jotaro's reality warping not as powerful as DIO when he deadass outdid Dio's reality warping

 

[StekFence]

On top of this, Jotaro would keep infinite reactions, because ratios. So if the battle begins, I would say that he’d simply move star plat the ten meters, and then start punching.

 

[StekFence]

Jotaro speed with Star platinum over heaven is this:Superhuman with at least Massively FTL, likely Infinite reactions. At least Massively FTL, likely Infinite Star Platinum Over Heaven (Is the exact same type of stand as The World Over Heaven). So Jiren would be equalized to Jotaro, and therefore it’s a super human guy vs a superhuman guy who has a Infinite speed weapon, and has the infinite speed reactions need to use it, and also coincidentally maxes out at 10m of range, which is the starting distance

 

[StekFence]

Superhuman speed glare < Infinite punches

What's faster? Opening your eyes, or a series of punches... BOY I WONDER WHO'LL WIN

 

[Knifeman29]

How is Jotaro's reality warping not as powerful as DIO when he deadass outdid Dio's reality warping

because Jotaro had just got the ability and dio had more time with RO.

 

[StekFence]

because Jotaro had just got the ability and dio had more time with RO.

And dio still got hard countered, despite the extra practice.

 

[Baken384]

because Jotaro had just got the ability and dio had more time with RO.

Then it is as powerful because it outdid Dio's reality warping. You can just say DIO is more experienced and that's fair game.

 

[Chariot190]

Then it is as powerful because it outdid Dio's reality warping. You can just say DIO is more experienced and that's fair game.

Dio points that out himself, that while he may have RO, he's just obtained it, he isn't as well versed on it or knows it's capabilities truly yet so he's still gonna lose (he doesn't but Dio pointing it out is worth a mention).

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

So in other words, Your only equalizing speed for one side, to disadvantage them

 

[StekFence]

So in other words, Your only equalizing speed for one side, to disadvantage them

That’s how speed equal works in general. The movement speed of both fighters is equal, and all other speeds are downsized by the same amount, including weapon speed. But no matter how many times you divide infinite, it’s still infinite, so it doesn’t matter

 

[StekFence]

So in other words, no.

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

That makes no sense, since it's not dividing being done, it's a set number replacing it

 

[StekFence]

That makes no sense, since it's not dividing being done, it's a set number replacing it

It doesn’t get replaced. speed equal equalizes movement speed to the slower chars speed

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

At least, being logical with things

 

[StekFence]

That would be Jotaro. So both guys have superhuman movement speed.

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Can Jotaro even damage jiren though... honestly? How strong is his stand with win cons?

 

[StekFence]

And because it’s equalized to his speed, star plat keeps the same speed. And let’s say speed is equalized to Jiren. Now Jotaro has mftl movement, and his stand and reactions will be the same amount faster than him. Which is still infinite

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Since Jiren's wincon is as easy as one tapping Jotara with something as simple as opening his eyes

 

[StekFence]

Can Jotaro even damage jiren though... honestly? How strong is his stand with win cons?

His stand is like, Tier 8 physically. But I think he’d use hax after literal countless hits do little to nothing

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

His stand is like, Tier 8 physically. But I think he’d use hax after literal countless hits do little to nothing

Can the stand wear down from constantly attacking?

 

[StekFence]

Can the stand wear down from constantly attacking?

I’m pretty sure stand and stand users really only get tired(in terms of stand usage)after using their ability repeatedly, which in this case is reality warp, and time stop. But I’m not completely sure, ask chariot or something for a more concrete answer

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Yeah, I wasn't sure that punches would wear him down at all, I'm still watching through star dust crusaders so... but I don't think punches could damage someone who can tank attacks on par with Goku after his infinite Void feat (If that's still a valid feat)

 

[Baken384]

Bruh why do yall act like Jotaro needs to punch Jiren a shitton of times when he can just erase him using his reality warping ability LMAO

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Bruh why do yall act like Jotaro needs to punch Jiren a shitton of times when he can just erase him using his reality warping ability LMAO

is that even in character?

 

[StekFence]

Yeah, I wasn't sure that punches would wear him down at all, I'm still watching through star dust crusaders, but I don't think punches could damage someone who can tank attacks on par with Goku after his infinite Void feat (If that's still a valid feat)

I don’t believe any amount of punches for a tier 8 can kill a tier 2. But he’d likely stop punching after noticing it does nothing, and then use hax

 

[StekFence]

is that even in character?

He’s basically only ever used in direct combat once, was only shown with the power once, so unknown I suppose. But his only other choice is to keep punching a guy who’s not gonna react to his punches at all

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Also, once he stops attacking, is there any opening that Jiren could make use of? any sign of a pause? or is he perpetually at infinite, and can win the fight before Jiren even moves

 

[StekFence]

His only other hax not related to reality warping is just to let him punch you for five more secones.

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Since Imma make this clear.... even the slightest few seconds is enough for it to be over