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Extended canon 682 says otherwise.jiren solos the verse sadly
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Extended canon 682 says otherwise.jiren solos the verse sadly
Extended canon 682 says otherwise.
man resists everything under the sun
It’s not apparentlyWait so you're telling me that due to how speed equal works, Jiren becomes super human, but jotaro remains at infinite speed? This gotta be against the rules man I swear.
I meant spoh. Although jojos reaction speed is also Inf speedWait why does jojo keep infinite speed? i thought that just effected Stands
SPOH is not Low 2-C physically, is Low 2-C only in hax potency.Like, even with the fact star plat oh decreases in power and speed as he gets further from Jotaro, he would still be inf speed, and therefore can land inf hits. They are both in the same tier, so I’m assuming star plat can harm Jiren. Infinite harming hits is a wincon for jot here.
Pretty sure he doesn’t need to move in order to damage Jiren considering Star Platinum Over Heaven is on the same level, if not stronger than Post-Absorption The World Over Heaven who could overwrite people without even needing to touch them, and as I mentioned before, all of Jotaro’s hax are thought-based and has Multiversal+ range with themIrrelevant since he needs to physically move closer to Jiren to be able to damage him which gives Jiren time to act. Moving through time stop will also catch jotaro off guard and get him killed.
*universal+The one who can glare away multiversal characters such as Goku and Vegeta
This has never been his opening move. He only began to practice Time Stop in combat as he grew older and more vulnerable, as he was travelling around the world and being targeted by far more dangerous threats, which is best demonstrated in Diamond is Unbreakable, where The Worldtaro uses it in nearly every fight he is in to evade a strike or get a couple hundred punches in. However, with Prime Jotaro, his opening move is running up to his opponent and punching them, as that is what gets the job done; in every fight in both Stardust Crusaders and Eyes of Heaven, he has lead by, continued with, and finished his fights throwing punches and kicks at his foes. That is just how he rolls.also why is time stop his 100% first move.
But, he does not use them in-character. He has never used them in-character. Erasing Jiren from existence is not a wincon that Jotaro has unless he is bloodlusted, which would then result in the match being a stomp.all of Jotaro’s hax are thought-based and has Multiversal+ range with them
*Multiversal*universal+
the thing is, stands equal speed rules work like this. say u are Mhs, and have a supersonic gun, and ur fighting a hypersonic dude. Under speed equal, both combata would be mhs, but the gun would still be Supersonic. It keeps its relative speed compared to the user. In this case, infinite speed spoh is just infinite speed spoh regardless of how jotaros speed is changed.I'm going with Jiren, here.
Jotaro essentially has to go out of character to be able to win, while Jiren just has to fight like normal. I also don't believe that the equal speed is being treated correctly by some. Jotaro has only superhuman movement speed, meaning the distance he can cover moving from point A to B. However, his reactions are MTL+, likely Infinite with SP having overall at least MTL+, likely Infinite. Assuming where's saying that Jotaro has infinite reactions and SP is infinite overall, they would scaled to Jiren as one reacts faster than him and the other does everything faster than him.
Saying that Jiren is stuck only moving and fighting at Superhuman speeds while Jotaro has access to likely Infinite reactions and a stand that is likely Infinite speed sounds like a bad interpretation of speed equal, IMO.
But the way it was described earlier was that Jiren would only become superhuman speeds while Jotaro retained infinite reactions. SPOH having infinite speed, due to counting as a weapon for all effective purposes, makes sense. But, Jotaro, the character, has reactions far in excess of Jiren's speed: Infinite vs. MFTL+. As such, speed equal should scale him down to Jiren's level. Because, even what does it matter if Jiren can move from point A to B faster if he appears to be a statue from Jotaro's prospective and perceptions? I hope, I'm making sense.the thing is, stands equal speed rules work like this. say u are Mhs, and have a supersonic gun, and ur fighting a hypersonic dude. Under speed equal, both combata would be mhs, but the gun would still be Supersonic. It keeps its relative speed compared to the user. In this case, infinite speed spoh is just infinite speed spoh regardless of how jotaros speed is changed.
But the way it was described earlier was that Jiren would only become superhuman speeds while Jotaro retained infinite reactions. SPOH having infinite speed, due to counting as a weapon for all effective purposes, makes sense. But, Jotaro, the character, has reactions far in excess of Jiren's speed: Infinite vs. MFTL+. As such, speed equal should scale him down to Jiren's level. Because, even what does it matter if Jiren can move from point A to B faster if he appears to be a statue from Jotaro's prospective and perceptions? I hope, I'm making sense.
That's where I'm getting confused/disagreeing.
They do, it’s just this stand is infinite speed, so it basically doesn’tsomething Stands speed will not be equalized because
He does, but it might not be his starting movejotaro doesn't have thought-based RO in this key?
I mean, star plats infinite speed should be more effective then reality warp imo. And more commonJiren literally can just glare, or create a massive shockwave, he's resisted time manipulation, and numerous over hax, his durability is absolutely off the charts, his AP absolutely insane, Scaling far beyond any other dragonball Villian yet, even minus all of that, he has his aura, which would make getting close enough to deal damage difficult, especially with his non physical interaction, Jotaro's main hope, is his stands reality warping, though Im voting Jiren due to his insane level of tankiness and damage output, as well as being able to literally destroy the entire planet just by opening his eyes
speed is equalI mean, star plats infinite speed should be more effective then reality warp imo. And more common
funny equalization rulesspeed is equal