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I think Alien X is at least 1-A High

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alien x is high outerversal (by feats)

and omnipotent (by statemants)



alien x tanked the annihilaarg which can destroy infinite time streams and infinite dimensions and infinite sized universe. its a low outerversal feat.

he recreated everything that annihilaarg destroys.(meaning he created infinite dimensions , infinite time streams and infinite size universe) low outerversal

celestialsapiens can effect real world . he can change voice actors and art styles. high outerversal

alien xs dna pierced a barrier that keeps annihilaargs explosion low outerversal again

and by the statemants , alien x and all celestialsapiens are truly omnipotent. so boundless.

for infinite timelines: maltruant statemant
for infinite dimensions: dr.holliday statemant
for omnipotence: azmuth , paradox , duncan reulaou and matt wayne statemants
for barrier: contumelia statemant
for universe size: duncan reulaou statemant
 
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Ok for a full debunk:

alien x tanked the annihilaarg which can destroy infinite time streams and infinite dimensions and infinite sized universe. its a low outerversal feat.

he recreated everything that annihilaarg destroys.(meaning he created infinite dimensions , infinite time streams and infinite size universe) low outerversal
That is not Low outerversal, that is 2-A, can u prove that these dimensions are ifninitely superior than the last, or that the dimensions here are not just referring to Universes. Also where are your sources?

celestialsapiens can effect real world . he can change voice actors and art styles. high outerversal
That is not an AP feat, that is just breaking the 4th wall

and by the statemants , alien x and all celestialsapiens are truly omnipotent. so boundless.
Being Omnipotent doesn't mean anything. And we don't use Omnipotent here
 
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Ok for a full debunk:


That is not Low outerversal, that is 2-A, can u prove that these dimensions are ifninitely superior than the last, or that the dimensions here are not just referring to Universes. Also where are your sources?


That is not an AP feat, that is just breaking the 4th wall


Being Omnipotent doesn't mean anything. And we don't use Omnipotent here

2-A: Multiverse level+​

Characters who are capable of significantly affecting[2], creating and/or destroying a countably infinite number of space-time continuums.

Low 1-A | Low Outerverse level: Characters who can universally affect, create and/or destroy structures and expanses of uncountably infinite dimensions, or which have a size roughly analogous to them, such as uncountably infinite sets of hierarchical layers or planes of existence, most specifically ones whose amount of layers is comparable to the set of all real numbers, and are thus equated to the first uncountably infinite cardinal, ℵ1, for simplicity's sake.


breaking 4th wall doesnt make you manipulate entire franchise and change voice actors



yeah, it was unnecessary to say that.


for source:


for infinite timelines: maltruant statemant


for infinite dimensions: dr.holliday statemant


for omnipotence: azmuth , paradox , duncan reulaou and matt wayne statemants

azmuth and paradox in ultimate alien

duncan reulaou:

matt wayne:

for barrier: contumelia statemant

in the last episode of omniverse series

for universe size: duncan reulaou statemant

 
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breaking 4th wall doesnt make you manipulate entire franchise and change voice actors
That's still doesn't grant you a tier.

2-A: Multiverse level+​

Characters who are capable of significantly affecting[2], creating and/or destroying a countably infinite number of space-time continuums.

Low 1-A | Low Outerverse level: Characters who can universally affect, create and/or destroy structures and expanses of uncountably infinite dimensions, or which have a size roughly analogous to them, such as uncountably infinite sets of hierarchical layers or planes of existence, most specifically ones whose amount of layers is comparable to the set of all real numbers, and are thus equated to the first uncountably infinite cardinal, ℵ1, for simplicity's sake.
And? You're evidence clearly doesn't prove that these dimensions are planes of existence, or whether they are infinitely superior to one another
 
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That's still doesn't grant you a tier.


And? You're evidence clearly doesn't prove that these dimensions are planes of existence, or whether they are infinitely superior to one another
dude thats an effect on real world. its high outerversal (w/lowball:eek:uterversal)
 
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alien x is high outerversal (by feats)

and omnipotent (by statemants)



alien x tanked the annihilaarg which can destroy infinite time streams and infinite dimensions and infinite sized universe. its a low outerversal feat.

he recreated everything that annihilaarg destroys.(meaning he created infinite dimensions , infinite time streams and infinite size universe) low outerversal

celestialsapiens can effect real world . he can change voice actors and art styles. high outerversal

alien xs dna pierced a barrier that keeps annihilaargs explosion low outerversal again

and by the statemants , alien x and all celestialsapiens are truly omnipotent. so boundless.

for infinite timelines: maltruant statemant
for infinite dimensions: dr.holliday statemant
for omnipotence: azmuth , paradox , duncan reulaou and matt wayne statemants
for barrier: contumelia statemant
for universe size: duncan reulaou statemant
i think this seems amazing, but please, stop sending this large amount of scans, my computer cant open countless scans at once, i guess u should open 100 different threads, each one to each scan
 

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Dimensions are synonymous with universes, destroying them doesn't mean destroying higher dimensions, you have to prove that.

Statements of of omnipotence are pretty meaningless, Eden can create an infinite number of "omnipotent" soldiers.

Could have sworn this topic was a discussion rule, have seen this many times over the years and i am not even a Ben 10 supporter, thought this was a F&G at first.
 
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I'm using a computer from the year 2000 and the internet from McDonald's, imagine that.
I am using this smartphone to check the scans, it is a bit slow but it works ☺️

cel_2.jpg
 

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2-A: Multiverse level+​

Characters who are capable of significantly affecting[2], creating and/or destroying a countably infinite number of space-time continuums.

Low 1-A | Low Outerverse level: Characters who can universally affect, create and/or destroy structures and expanses of uncountably infinite dimensions, or which have a size roughly analogous to them, such as uncountably infinite sets of hierarchical layers or planes of existence, most specifically ones whose amount of layers is comparable to the set of all real numbers, and are thus equated to the first uncountably infinite cardinal, ℵ1, for simplicity's sake.


breaking 4th wall doesnt make you manipulate entire franchise and change voice actors



yeah, it was unnecessary to say that.


for source:


for infinite timelines: maltruant statemant


for infinite dimensions: dr.holliday statemant


for omnipotence: azmuth , paradox , duncan reulaou and matt wayne statemants

azmuth and paradox in ultimate alien

duncan reulaou:

matt wayne:

for barrier: contumelia statemant

in the last episode of omniverse series

for universe size: duncan reulaou statemant

To debunk the omnipotence: Omnipotence can simply mean "of great power". So unless you show proof of true omnipotence (and we know this isn't the case as it's stated Alien X isn't the strongest alien) this is an invalid point.
The infinite timelines statement isn't close to 1-A. It's more 2-A (and I don't even agree with that one)
I was gonna look into the infinite dimensions one but then it had Generator Rex and we don't use crossovers.



P.S. Statements don't mean anything unless backed by evidence or a good amount of sources. There are Ben 10 creators who have made claims that were fishy before.





With all this being said, I agree Alien X is Tier 0. GG nerds.
 
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for infinite dimensions: dr.holliday statemant
Anyways, this comes from a crossover that ben 10 had with that other serie right? i remember it, however, the context is parallel universes, the statement was this

''Ben was a cool guy, maybe I will find him again?''
then holliday answer ''With a infinite number of dimensions, math is not in ur side''

so, yeah, the context is just parallel universes
 
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To debunk the omnipotence: Omnipotence can simply mean "of great power". So unless you show proof of true omnipotence (and we know this isn't the case as it's stated Alien X isn't the strongest alien) this is an invalid point.
The infinite timelines statement isn't close to 1-A. It's more 2-A (and I don't even agree with that one)
I was gonna look into the infinite dimensions one but then it had Generator Rex and we don't use crossovers.



P.S. Statements don't mean anything unless backed by evidence or a good amount of sources. There are Ben 10 creators who have made claims that were fishy before.





With all this being said, I agree Alien X is Tier 0. GG nerds.
true omnipotence > https://www.hizliresim.com/gp3rebj

https://www.hizliresim.com/nw2a1yh
https://www.hizliresim.com/29t9nns

the strongest alien statemant is outdated.
yes infinite timelines is 2-a but infinite dimensions is 2b high to low 1a

good source: azmuth and paradox and writers.

djw is not a writer. so his statemants are not reliable.
moa giving contradiction. so moa is not reliable too.
 

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Okay, guys, I don't know if you are joking or not, but if yes then this should be in fun and games, not content revision.
 
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They are tanking about a High 1-B statement that isn't usable by any definition besides wank.
the infinites dimensions statement is just parallel universes lol, i know the statement
Anyways, this comes from a crossover that ben 10 had with that other serie right? i remember it, however, the context is parallel universes, the statement was this

''Ben was a cool guy, maybe I will find him again?''
then holliday answer ''With a infinite number of dimensions, math is not in ur side''

so, yeah, the context is just parallel universes
 

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This thread is either: Made by a new user or made by a troll. Either way, it needs to be closed.
 
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You are joking because none of you can answer properly.
I literally did
Anyways, this comes from a crossover that ben 10 had with that other serie right? i remember it, however, the context is parallel universes, the statement was this

''Ben was a cool guy, maybe I will find him again?''
then holliday answer ''With a infinite number of dimensions, math is not in ur side''

so, yeah, the context is just parallel universes
 

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This thread is either: Made by a new user or made by a troll. Either way, it needs to be closed.
Agreed, this argument is nonsensical and blatant wank.
 
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I remember that the word dimension started to mean parallel universe after the omniverse series.
 

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true omnipotence > https://www.hizliresim.com/gp3rebj

https://www.hizliresim.com/nw2a1yh
https://www.hizliresim.com/29t9nns

the strongest alien statemant is outdated.
yes infinite timelines is 2-a but infinite dimensions is 2b high to low 1a

good source: azmuth and paradox and writers.

djw is not a writer. so his statemants are not reliable.
moa giving contradiction. so moa is not reliable too.
The scan for true omnipotence is not loading but I think it was Dwayne McDuffy who said Alien X isn't the strongest, and if I find it saying that, I see no reason to continue. I mean you say it's outdated but do you hold proof that it is? Using statements to debunk other statements usually isn't the way.
Infinite dimensions is literally potentially only 2-B so why are we having the conversation? (Especially when you are wrong anyways 😂.)

Anyways you are downplaying Alien X is Tier -2.
 
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and i remember said ben came from another universe in crossover. not another dimension.
the context of the word dimension and universe can mean the same, which is the case here

''Ben was a cool guy, maybe I will find him again?''
then holliday answer ''With a infinite number of dimensions, math is not in ur side''''
 
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The scan for true omnipotence is not loading but I think it was Dwayne McDuffy who said Alien X isn't the strongest, and if I find it saying that, I see no reason to continue. I mean you say it's outdated but do you hold proof that it is? Using statements to debunk other statements usually isn't the way.
Infinite dimensions is literally potentially only 2-B so why are we having the conversation? (Especially when you are wrong anyways 😂.)
no its matt wayne
 
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the context of the word dimension and universe can mean the same, which is the case here

''Ben was a cool guy, maybe I will find him again?''
then holliday answer ''With a infinite number of dimensions, math is not in ur side''''
yes it means universe after the ben 10 omniverse series. before they used for dimensions. like naljians said 26 dimensions
 
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The scan for true omnipotence is not loading but I think it was Dwayne McDuffy who said Alien X isn't the strongest, and if I find it saying that, I see no reason to continue. I mean you say it's outdated but do you hold proof that it is? Using statements to debunk other statements usually isn't the way.
Infinite dimensions is literally potentially only 2-B so why are we having the conversation? (Especially when you are wrong anyways 😂.)

Anyways you are downplaying Alien X is Tier -2.
https://i.gyazo.com/1ff84c185cecfbf8040d6abd9508a73a.png can you open this ?
 
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yes it means universe after the ben 10 omniverse series. before they used for dimensions. like naljians said 26 dimensions
Yeah I do agree that nalijans case indeed is not parallel universes, however, u tried to use the infinites dimensions statement, which is not higher dimensions in this case. and about the 26-D statement, while it has basis to be higher dimensional, as it is stated that humans lives in 3 dimensions and cannot see/understand higher dimensions, u will need to make a proper thread to it, as this one already is a mess
 
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Yeah I do agree that nalijans case indeed is not parallel universes, however, u tried to use the infinites dimensions statement, which is not higher dimensions in this case. and about the 26-D statement, while it has basis to be higher dimensional, as it is stated that humans lives in 3 dimensions and cannot see/understand higher dimensions, u will need to make a proper thread to it, as this one already is a mess
You say humans can`t understand even string theory can see 10 dimensions
 
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Disagree with this thread,true omnipotence like Alien X is far superior to infinitely above tier 0 so high outversal is totally wrong,stop trying to nerf it
 
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