Minor Alien X Additions (Ben 10)

[Aolphl]

I wanted to do this because why not?

Abilities:

• Space Survival: During his battle with the Galactic Gladiator, he was shown to be able to move freely in space.
• Hive Mind (Type 1): During his battle with Galactic Gladiator, he created dozens of Alien X's himself, and these Alien X's all attacked Gladiator from a single mind.
• Spatial Manipulation: During Ben's first transformation, the cricle he created appeared to show his shoulders and facial features bent warp.

Spatial Manipulation is the ability to warp, bend, flip, crush, and control space.

• Biological Manipulation: Azmuth's appearance and voice were changed three times.
• Acausality Type 1: No one remembers the recreation of the universe except Ben, Serena and Bellicus. When the universe began to disappear, people like Rook, Argit saw the universe disappear, but when the universe was recreated, they couldn't remember them.
• Power Bestowal:

Higher-Dimensional Existence (Alien X has a pocket dimension which has its own time and causality disconnected from the rest of time, making him at least 4-D)

Ben is naturally a human being and needs oxygen. Since Alien X contains a pocket reality with its own Time and Causality independent of other dimensions, Ben must be floating in space, and he doesn't need oxygen during this process. There must have been some kind of Power Bestowal during his transformation into Alien X.​

Removed Abilities:

Earth Manipulation (Raised a crater)

Obviously, this is nothing. Alien X, that crater is rising as a result of the punch he threw at Gladiator. Alien X is not doing anything to make that crater rise.

Resistances:

• Pain Manipulation: He scales to the Gladiator, who does not feel any pain after his hand is shattered.
• Void Manipulation: After the destruction of "Everything" by Annihilarrgh, Alien X should be standing in a Void. Since he has been in this Void for a certain period of time and nothing has happened to him, he should take it.

Possibly Intelligence Uprage:
As Chadzmuth said, Celestialsapiens are responsible for the changes in the universe. Changing Azmuth's voice and appearance is something that Celestialsapiens do on purpose. I mean, the fact that Mr. Smoothy's logo changed and Ben wore a new white hoodie is not a "Mistake", it must have been something that Alien X did on purpose. For all these reasons, Alien X should be Omniscient.
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Agree: @OMNIVERSAL-KING, @DarkDragonMedeus, @Spectra_Schiffer, @LordGriffin1000, @ByArrow, @Popbum, @MintyBoi1
Disagree: @Greenshifter (Acausality Type 1), @ByArrow (on resistance to Void Manip)
Neutral: @Greenshifter (on IQ), @LordGriffin1000 (on resistance to Void Manip)

 

[Aolphl]

GOLB victim ngl

 

[OMNIVERSAL-KING]

Agree

 

[OMNIVERSAL-KING]

Possibly Intelligence Uprage:
As Chadzmuth said, Celestialsapiens are responsible for the changes in the universe. Changing Azmuth's voice and appearance is something that Celestialsapiens do on purpose. I mean, the fact that Mr. Smoothy's logo changed and Ben wore a new white hoodie is not a "Mistake", it must have been something that Alien X did on purpose. For all these reasons, Alien X should be Omniscient.
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Agree:
Disagree:
Neutral

We can use that same statement for change in "settings of show" and plot manipulation

 

[zaraus]

GOLB victim ngl

debate me

 

[Aolphl]

We can use that same statement for change in "settings of show" and plot manipulation

Obviously, I didn't want to include author statements. This can be discussed on another thread.

debate me

Ohh of course, If the new system prepared by Ultima comes into force, why not?

 

[zaraus]

Açıkçası yazar beyanlarına yer vermek istemedim. Bu başka bir başlıkta tartışılabilir.

Ah tabi ki Ultima'nın hazırladığı yeni sistem yürürlüğe girerse neden olmasın?

veya dc yapılabilirsin ark eklisin ztn bunu burada yazıyorsan gel bide dc den yazdan korkma

 

[Aolphl]

veya dc yapılabilirsin ark eklisin ztn bunu burada yazıyorsan gel bide dc den yazdan korkma

Dude, it's forbidden to speak in a language other than English on this Wiki, especially on one thread. Correct what you have written.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Mr. Smoothy's logo changed and Ben wore a new white hoodie is not a "Mistake", it must have been something that Alien X did on purpose. For all these reasons, Alien X should be Omniscient.

I probably be disagree on this, that's just your assumption, we don't know if he did that on purpose or not.

 

[Aolphl]

I probably be disagree on this, that's just your assumption, we don't know if he did that on purpose or not.

Did you miss what Chadzmuth said? He's talking about Celestials making changes to the universe on purpose. And these are things that are in the direction of "Preference", not a "Mistake". Ben has to put on a new hoodie and Mr. If Smoothy's logo change was a mistake, it should have been followed by a chain of mistakes. Alien X created these things because he preferred it that way.

 

[zaraus]

Dostum, bu Wiki'de, özellikle de bir başlıkta, İngilizce dışında bir dilde konuşmak yasaktır. Yazdıklarınızı düzeltin.

Pek umrumda değil abisi konuyu saptırma gel dc

 

[Aolphl]

Pek umrumda değil abisi konuyu saptırma gel dc

If you continue to do this, I will have to complain to the relevant places.

 

[zaraus]

Eğer bunu yapmaya devam ederseniz ilgili yerlere şikayette bulunmak zorunda kalacağım.

eee

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Spoiler

interesting where my like go?

 

[Aolphl]

 

[zaraus]

I accept, but I'm also undecided on intelligence.

 

[Greenshifter]

Acausality Type 1: No one remembers the recreation of the universe except Ben, Serena and Bellicus. When the universe began to disappear, people like Rook, Argit saw the universe disappear, but when the universe was recreated, they couldn't remember them.

Nah, Ben was outside of the universe when that happened

 

[Greenshifter]

Void Manipulation: After the destruction of "Everything" by Annihilarrgh, Alien X should be standing in a Void. Since he has been in this Void for a certain period of time and nothing has happened to him, he should take it.

Does it work like that?

For all these reasons, Alien X should be Omniscient.

What about Ben having to explain the situation to them in Vilgax Attacks or them not knowing what other Celestialsapiens will do?

 

[Greenshifter]

I probably be disagree on this, that's just your assumption, we don't know if he did that on purpose or not.

Yeah Ben probably messed with the recreation of it, heck we are explicitly told he messed up.

 

[MintyBoi1]

This stuff looks agreeable, but what do you mean Alien X changed Ben’s hoodie on purpose. Do you think the transformation acted independently without Ben knowing?

 

[Aolphl]

Does it work like that?

Yes, there are characters on the wiki where we do this.

What about Ben having to explain the situation to them in Vilgax Attacks or them not knowing what other Celestialsapiens will do?

What? Wasn't the reason Alien X wasn't Omniscient because the hoodie Ben was wearing and Mr. Smoothy's logo changed when he recreated the universe and everything in it?

Nah, Ben was outside of the universe when that happened

Didn't Benjamin, Serena and Bellicus already witness this explosion? Not only Benjamin experienced this, but also Serena and Bellicus.

This stuff looks agreeable, but what do you mean Alien X changed Ben’s hoodie on purpose. Do you think the transformation acted independently without Ben knowing?

I'm telling Ben wearing a new hoodie is Alien X's own choice.

 

[MintyBoi1]

It could be a possibility given Ghostfreak kept its consciousness

 

[OMNIVERSAL-KING]

This stuff looks agreeable, but what do you mean Alien X changed Ben’s hoodie on purpose. Do you think the transformation acted independently without Ben knowing?

Good question Ben can't comprehend full power of Alien X AZMUTH also confirmed that a human can't comprehend full power of a Celestialsapien , so it's pretty obvious that Serena and bellicus did this (as it's their nature/ hobby to make such changes)

 

[MintyBoi1]

That would make sense, was that before or after Ben gained full control, I forget. Then again Bellicus and Serena could’ve just been being cheeky regardless

 

[Greenshifter]

Yes, there are characters on the wiki where we do this.

Weird

What? Wasn't the reason Alien X wasn't Omniscient because the hoodie Ben was wearing and Mr. Smoothy's logo changed when he recreated the universe and everything in it?

Someone put that cap on the page yes, no idea why.

Didn't Benjamin, Serena and Bellicus already witness this explosion? Not only Benjamin experienced this, but also Serena and Bellicus.

They saw it happen from a safe distance

I'm telling Ben wearing a new hoodie is Alien X's own choice.

Maybe

 

[Hellformer]

I wanted to do this because why not?

Abilities:

• Space Survival: During his battle with the Galactic Gladiator, he was shown to be able to move freely in space.
• Hive Mind (Type 1): During his battle with Galactic Gladiator, he created dozens of Alien X's himself, and these Alien X's all attacked Gladiator from a single mind.
• Spatial Manipulation: During Ben's first transformation, the cricle he created appeared to show his shoulders and facial features bent warp.

• Biological Manipulation: Azmuth's appearance and voice were changed three times.
• Acausality Type 1: No one remembers the recreation of the universe except Ben, Serena and Bellicus. When the universe began to disappear, people like Rook, Argit saw the universe disappear, but when the universe was recreated, they couldn't remember them.
• Power Bestowal:

Ben is naturally a human being and needs oxygen. Since Alien X contains a pocket reality with its own Time and Causality independent of other dimensions, Ben must be floating in space, and he doesn't need oxygen during this process. There must have been some kind of Power Bestowal during his transformation into Alien X.​

Removed Abilities:

Obviously, this is nothing. Alien X, that crater is rising as a result of the punch he threw at Gladiator. Alien X is not doing anything to make that crater rise.

Resistances:

• Pain Manipulation: He scales to the Gladiator, who does not feel any pain after his hand is shattered.
• Void Manipulation: After the destruction of "Everything" by Annihilarrgh, Alien X should be standing in a Void. Since he has been in this Void for a certain period of time and nothing has happened to him, he should take it.

Possibly Intelligence Uprage:
As Chadzmuth said, Celestialsapiens are responsible for the changes in the universe. Changing Azmuth's voice and appearance is something that Celestialsapiens do on purpose. I mean, the fact that Mr. Smoothy's logo changed and Ben wore a new white hoodie is not a "Mistake", it must have been something that Alien X did on purpose. For all these reasons, Alien X should be Omniscient.
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Agree:
Disagree:
Neutral:

Agreed

 

[Aolphl]

They saw it happen from a safe distance

As a result, all three of them witnessed this and form the triple consciousness of Alien X. Except for them, no one in the rest of the universe remembers the explosion.

 

[Zeinx1]

following

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks alright to me.

 

[Aolphl]

Looks alright to me.

Thanks for contribution

 

[Greenshifter]

As a result, all three of them witnessed this and form the triple consciousness of Alien X. Except for them, no one in the rest of the universe remembers the explosion.

Yes, but they don’t get acausality for it.

 

[Popbum]

Agree

 

[Aolphl]

Yes, but they don’t get acausality for it.

Why they not get Acausality? Alien X is exactly at the center of this explosion, no one remembers this event except himself (or beings who are equivalent to him). This is naturally a paradox, and it needs to be Aca1.

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

looks good

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Most of this looks alright but GG not feeling pain is really an endurance thing. It wouldn't actually give resistance. That's usually why you see characters with "High Pain Tolerance" on their profiles. Unless a direct statement mentions they feel no pain, I wouldn't call it a resistance to pain. I'm unsure on void manipulation resistance given what does and doesn't qualify for that has escaped me but if others agree with that then sure.

 

[ByArrow]

Standing in void does not count as resistance to void manipulation.

I agree with everything else

 

[Aolphl]

Most of this looks alright but GG not feeling pain is really an endurance thing. It wouldn't actually give resistance. That's usually why you see characters with "High Pain Tolerance" on their profiles. Unless a direct statement mentions they feel no pain, I wouldn't call it a resistance to pain. I'm unsure on void manipulation resistance given what does and doesn't qualify for that has escaped me but if others agree with that then sure.

Thanks for contribution

 

[Greenshifter]

Why they not get Acausality? Alien X is exactly at the center of this explosion, no one remembers this event except himself (or beings who are equivalent to him). This is naturally a paradox, and it needs to be Aca1.

His pocket dimension isn’t anywhere near the destruction

 

[Aolphl]

His pocket dimension isn’t anywhere near the destruction

Then how about deleting Resistance to Existence Erasure and Space-Time Manipulation from the Profile? Because Ben, Serena and Bellicus are in Pocket Reality. They're an extraordinary distance away from the explosion. Does that make sense to you?

 

[Greenshifter]

Then how about deleting Resistance to Existence Erasure and Space-Time Manipulation from the Profile? Because Ben, Serena and Bellicus are in Pocket Reality. They're an extraordinary distance away from the explosion. Does that make sense to you?

The body resists those things, I don’t think the pocket dimension does. Well maybe it does from the Chrono Navigator, but not the Annihilaargh.