Gura-Gura shaking space

[Ryuga21]

I'll be straight: Law traps Blackbeard in a spatial R-room, which is immediately cracked and broken (anime shows Room even more distorted) by a casual punch imbued with only quake powers. Later, also using only Gura Gura, Blackbeard makes contact and blocks an attack from K-room (a technique where Law imbues Room into his own sword).

Because Room is a spatial zone that Law creates to attack and use his powers, Gura-Gura should gain spatial manipulation in the profiles of its respective users since tremors can shake, distort and destroy space; also block spatial based-attacks.

 

[Entity]

I would say Uni+ One Piece

 

[That_moron2]

Agree

 

[Damage3245]

I'm neutral about this for the moment. The R-Room disappearing doesn't mean that Blackbeard broke it, it could just be done because Law was done with it. When Blackbeard clashed with Law's sword he was also using Haki which we know can interfere with DF powers.

 

[Stefano4444]

Neutral, similar to Damage its possible that the R-Room disappearing was because Law got hit by Blackbeard's quake and the ability need to remain active.

For the other part its unsure, Blackbeard could have used Haki too in the clash.

 

[Johner2133451]

Agree

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

I have mixed feelings about this.

If the Room disappears due to the Gura-Gura breaking it, it's clearly Spatial manipulation, but if it breaks due to Law getting hit, it clearly is NOT Spatial manipulation.

So yeah, for now, I am neutral.

 

[Eminiteable]

To those claiming it's Haki which allowed him to stop Kroom, remember that it was already stated by Law himself that Big Mom was passively outputting Haki so strong that his abilities had no effect on her, yet, k-room could still pass through her.

As for the gura breaking the r-room, law had no reason to dismiss it after one attack and wouldn't as the ability remains locked on to the opponent without any real focus needed from law as shown against big mom.

Law getting hit also wouldn't dismiss it as it's important to remember r-room is literally just a remote room, rooms don't get dismissed by law getting hit.

 

[Damage3245]

To those claiming it's Haki which allowed him to stop Kroom, remember that it was already stated by Law himself that Big Mom was passively outputting Haki so strong that his abilities had no effect on her, yet, k-room could still pass through her.

Only his Chambres technique had no effect on her. That didn't stop him from electrocuting her with Counter-Shock.

 

[Eminiteable]

Only his Chambres technique had no effect on her. That didn't stop him from electrocuting her with Counter-Shock.

I don't know why this is relevant?

The claim being made was that BB's haki is what prevented k-room from passing through him but it's clearly shown with big mom that despite having stronger active Haki it doesn't prevent that.

 

[Damage3245]

I don't know why this is relevant?

The claim being made was that BB's haki is what prevented k-room from passing through him but it's clearly shown with big mom that despite having stronger active Haki it doesn't prevent that.

What I meant was that just because her Haki was negating some elements of his DF (being teleported around), it doesn't mean that other elements of his DF (such as shocking her, or phasing his sword through her) were being negated by the level of Haki she had at the time. So her being affected by his sword doesn't prove that no amount of Haki would be capable of stopping his K-Room.

 

[Kachon123]

What I meant was that just because her Haki was negating some elements of his DF (being teleported around), it doesn't mean that other elements of his DF (such as shocking her, or phasing his sword through her) were being negated by the level of Haki she had at the time. So her being affected by his sword doesn't prove that no amount of Haki would be capable of stopping his K-Room.

The K-Room blade only interacted with the Gura bubble, so why would we attribute this to Blackbeard's Haki? Occam's Razor, in my opinion, points to the former.

 

[Eminiteable]

What I meant was that just because her Haki was negating some elements of his DF (being teleported around), it doesn't mean that other elements of his DF (such as shocking her, or phasing his sword through her) were being negated by the level of Haki she had at the time. So her being affected by his sword doesn't prove that no amount of Haki would be capable of stopping his K-Room.

I don't agree with this interpretation, k-room and even r-room are rooms which law states are harmless on their own and don't necessarily get resisted at all by Haki (which is what we've seen).

If you're implying varying degrees of greater Haki are what's needed to resist it then why didn't Big Mom just do that? Against both k-room and r-room she had plenty of opportunities, with the former she even used more visible armament when she started punching law in the head to force him to stop.

 

[Damage3245]

I don't agree with this interpretation, k-room and even r-room are rooms which law states are harmless on their own and don't necessarily get resisted at all by Haki (which is what we've seen).

If you're implying varying degrees of greater Haki are what's needed to resist it then why didn't Big Mom just do that? Against both k-room and r-room she had plenty of opportunities, with the former she even used more visible armament when she started punching law in the head to force him to stop.

Well, I'll agree to disagree on that point and leave it there. I'll just say that for the latter, Big Mom was already stabbed through with the K-Room blade at that point and so couldn't stop it from going through her; and Haki is a resource which dwindles over the course of a battle and by the end of the fight she may not have been capable of negating Law's DF attack.

 

[Kachon123]

Haki is a resource which dwindles over the course of a battle and by the end of the fight she may not have been capable of negating Law's DF attack.

Big Mom was explicitly noted to have not even on the verge of death. This is a Big Mom who can use Haōshoku Infusion anywhere from 1-3 days straight. There's absolutely no way that her Haki dwindled from fighting those two.

Big Mom was already stabbed through with the K-Room blade at that point and so couldn't stop it from going through her

She was releasing vast amounts of Haki and Law's Re-Room still worked on her. Haki is very clearly not the answer to these types of attacks.