Illiterate?
If they embody a concept, then they are abstract. Mind you, even normal humans can sense CT when the aura of a place is strong enough or they are close to death. Makima is on a clock the moment the match begins, so I really don't see how she goes unimpacted here, especially with an extremely narrow wincon.
Please don't be mean
Neither ESP nor Enhanced Senses are required to detect Devils.
Her wincon is significantly easier to reach, which is simply speaking.
I mean, CSM is clearly not a purely physical universe. If devils embody concepts and emotion/thought can empower them, that means the power system is inherently abstract and conceptual. Which would coincide with aspects of CE given that curses are brithed in an extremely similar way and also do physically exist even if unable to be perceived by regular humans or non human monitoring.
It's really not. Gojo is not killing her more than 5 times before DE is coming out and she's clapped after that.
Uh yeah, it wouldn't change the fact, but it doesn't need to change the fact because there's a reason only one person sensed it lol... whether you agree with that reason or not is up to you, ig.
Just because they lack a universal energy system, doesn't mean they don't have irregular ontology impacting the verse which would equalize to aspects of CE. They obviously don't have to be exactly equal or standardization wouldn't be a thing. But given both embody concepts/abstrats, can be empowered by emotion/thought, and both exists in physical form, I think that's well enough to make a determination here, especially given the additional evidence from Gojo's aura vs the assassins, and Daido's mere existence.
Toji identified this trait in Gojo simply because nobody else was capable of sensing him. It isn't that Toji looked at Gojo and sensed that he had good eyes, its that Gojo looked at Toji when nobody else ever had, and that put him off guard.
I don't think DE would work.
Can Makima interact with info type 2? If not, Gojo is going to fry her. .2 seconds incapacitated regular humans for 6 months. Gojo has a full on conversation with Jogo for a bit before tearing his head off. Assuming Makima is in his domain for even 5 seconds, and her brain is going to explode. Even Sukuna, who was only exposed for a sliver of a second, had a full on aneurysm.
Makima isn't interacting with it. She just transfers the damage inflicted onto her by the Domain onto other citizens.
What is the limit on it? Can she survive immediate brain death? It seems like an NLF to just say she can transfer any amount of damage from any modality.
Oh yeah I completely forgot her defensive powers would be nulled. So yeah that's GG.
Yes it would. It’d be a NLF to claim that Makima could transfer something like unlimited void onto another person.
Makima has explicitly recovered from severe brain damage on multiple occasions with no issue. Having her brains blown out by bullets and such.
Genuinely uncertain about this. I would say no but due to the abstract nature of Devils in CSM I could be wrong.
She isn't redirecting the hax, only the damage inflicted by the hax.
She is transferring the results of that attack though?? Not the attack? She doesn’t need to interact with it.
But he brain isn’t actually “damaged” in any way. There’s no physical wound, it’s just a more abstract info dump that makes you essentially into a vegetable.
I think there is a difference between localized trauma and a complete system overload.
Yeah I am tempted to say that she gets blotted her then, especially since she has no defense against getting powernulled.
I say this because her redirection hax would need a feat of being able to interact with this nature of power effect. It's logic similar to NPI that works on a ghost not working on a conceptual, or non-existent creature without feats. So unless the hax shows that it can do so, it may be NLF. Or damage transferal of physical wounds not sending a conceptual or soul attack away all on its own.
While this is food for thought, Cosmos Fiend is chinese, no? I don't think the contract includes her. But not up to date with CSM so could be wrong.
Yeah, it turns you into a vegetable because it damages the brain.
What exactly do you mean? Both are damages to the brain in some capacity that can result in instant death, which she transfers.
I don't think the power null would work because Devil powers are derived from conceptual embodiment stuff. And the contract resurrection thing isn't really a "technique" in the first place.
I get you, I was just asking too. Leaning NLF but I can see the logic from both sides. Can't vote yet even if I'm a certified Gojo fan. The reply I wrote before this one tells why I think like that.
A localized wound is one event with a specific scope of damage (getting shot in the brain injures the direct area and the tissue impacted by the force of the bullet).
It would, DE powernulls works on all CT in the JJK verse, which would include concept type 2 and 3 manip.
She can control Devils even after they die, which is on her profile, their nationality is unimportant.
No I know she can control them, but like can she transfer the damage to them too no matter the nationality with the contract?
Ok but you’d need evidence Makima can transfer more abstract results like that. I also said “essentially” into a vegetable for a reason, again you’re not actually being damaged at all. In fact it’s more so you can understand everything, and this might not be transferable.
She doesn't have to actively do anything for the contract to activate, since it happens upon death. And, by the way, about the contract, I don't think that it can be nullified by the Domain.
You'd need proof of her contracting covering things like mind hax, especially since Gojo's info hax also effects the soul.
Basically, all JP citizens are automatically connected to Makima via her PM Contract, while anyone she defeats/proves herself superior to also enter a one-sided contract with her. This is shown via the womb chains.
The Spider devil was still ****** by Cosmos info dump.
It's because I don't remember the damage transferal going for another fiend and of a different country. There's also that Makima can't choose who pays the toll. It happens at random from her scapegoat poll. Making Cosmo suffer the effects sounds kind of good, but I don't think she can choose to transfer the DEmage to Cosmo on the fly unless she got the luck of a lottery winner.
