Gigantic Animal Man Revision

[Elizhaa]

For these:

Likely Pseudo-Abstract Existence, Higher-Dimensional Manipulation, and Conceptual Manipulation: Animal Man is directly grafted into the Morphogenic Field, a collection of all the Platonic Ideal Forms of all animalsand encompasses the implicate order.

I think everthing is fine I think some can be specified likely Abstract Existence (Type 2) since no abilities like Conceptual Manipulation is required to harm him and resurrection/immortality Type 6 and 8 stem from the field.

Conceptual Manipulation is Type 2 since it is described to be similar to Platonic concepts but the actual Platonic Concepts that would warrant Type 1.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

What type of Abstract Existence specifically?

 

[Elizhaa]

What type of Abstract Existence specifically?

I think Abstract Existence Type 2 since he embodies a part of the template.

• Type 2: Embodies an abstraction, and can be resurrected or regenerate indefinitely thanks to it. Destroying the abstraction is required to permanently kill those characters, but they can still be affected without directly altering it.

I do think everything else that I didn't mentioned over is fine.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Since with Morphogenetic Field powers, he had 1/3 the power to create a universe, would 3-B with The Red work?

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

I think that makes sense.

 

[Elizhaa]

Since with Morphogenetic Field powers, he had 1/3 the power to create a universe, would 3-B with The Red work?

I think it is fine but with a scan. It is preferable if you have a scan or evidence for the evaluation.

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[Yobo_Blue]

The scan in question is the one I used for Reality Warping and Creation

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Scan 1

Scan 2

 

[Elizhaa]

Scan 1
Scan 2

I see and thanks. After reading the scan, I think the feat could be low 2-C since with them creation would have ceased from the frsit scan; space-time is implied there.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I think Unknown may be the best bet then

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Any other issues?

 

[Elizhaa]

I think Unknown may be the best bet the

It looks a solid enough AP feats though and recreating the universe tends to be a Low 2-C like in Alien X's case.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Would he have 1-A reality warping for repairing The Source?

 

[Elizhaa]

Would he have 1-A reality warping for repairing The Source?

I thought the Source was the field so I guess Unknown is fine.

 

[PsychoWarper]

The Source.

It should be at least "Likely 1-A".

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I think it was by chain reaction iirc, so unknown is best.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Ok then.

Still think "Unknown, possibly 1-A" is better

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Actually, reading the comic it comes from over, it could be 1-A. Give me a second.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Like I said "Unknown, likely 1-A" or "Unknown, possibly 1-A" would probably fit best.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

The material expression of the entity they overcame that was apparently threatening the Source, Antago, encompassed the totality of reality and unreality. It was said to be the ultimate antithesis to creation and existed as the "Monad of Denial". It was said to be the shadow of existence itself, that no powers in existence could defeat sans the M-Field. He opposed those who dreamed animals and predated them. He would have sucked all creation into The Void, and was self-begotte.


In order to overcome him, they had to use the M-Field to reach into the space that existed beyond all-knowing and before all creation and could see into the timeless and placeless existence before Antago

Take this as you will.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Id say go with "Unknown, possibly 1-A" but id wait to see what others say as well.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

...1-A Animal Man?


Uh


Okay

 

[Elizhaa]

Id say go with "Unknown, possibly 1-A" but id wait to see what others say as well.

I am fine with Unknown, possibly 1-A.

 

[PsychoWarper]

...1-A Animal Man?


Uh


Okay

Well hes a smurf but yes.

Also do not spam him against every smurf on the site.

 

[Dvorak1902]

Corollary: I will now put "Small" on every CRT I try to make.

 

[Elizhaa]

If Animal Man gain a Tier 1-A rating than Conceptual Manipulation should be Type 1 since it is reserved for Tier 1-A.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Technically he'd only be possibly 1-A with M-Field like Molecule Ma, so it would be Type 2, possibly Type 1

 

[Elizhaa]

Technically he'd only be possibly 1-A with M-Field like Molecule Ma, so it would be Type 2, possibly Type 1

Yeah, the unknown caught me off-guard but the suggestion is fine.

 

[PsychoWarper]

So will it be something like "9-B Physically, Unknown possibly 1-A via M-Field (or Reality Warping)"?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

9-B, Unknow, possibly 1-A with M-Field Powers

 

[PsychoWarper]

Yeah that works.

BTW which of his Hax are smurfy? I know his Reality Warping, Concept Manip and BFR are but what else?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Pretty much all of his plot hax, pseudo abstract existence, and immortality are, as well as his acausality arguably, since it comes from the true continuity everything is bound to and manipulates the boundary between existence and The Void

Possibly his power mimicry since it works through Ideal Forms.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Hmm cool, is his Plot Hax combat applicable btw?

EDIT Wait is his Plot Hax connected to his BFR?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I mean, he used it to erase someone from existence, so yes.

 

[Elizhaa]

Is he really 9-B physically because this cases feel similar to the Molecule Ma?

 

[PsychoWarper]

Hmmm, he'll be interesting (and cancerous) in fights since he doesnt seem to resist alot making him beatable but he has a win move against any character.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Is he really 9-B physically because this cases feel similar to the Molecule Ma?

The Molecule Man is 9-B physically, yes.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Hmm cool, is his Plot Hax combat applicable btw?

EDIT Wait is his Plot Hax connected to his BFR?

Animal Man's plot hax is manipulating boundaries to moving through and manipulating comic pages in order to do things like BFR and existence erasure

 

[PsychoWarper]

Molecule Man is 10-B physically.

 

[Elizhaa]

I see then; I think your proposed rating is fine.