General DC Comics Discussion Thread

[LordTracer]

Currently, we have profiles with "Post-Crisis", "Post-Flashpoint" and "Rebirth" names.

How about we change them to the original and official name?

Pre Crisis -> Earth One.

Post Crisis -> New Earth.

Post Flashopoint -> Prime Earth.

Rebirth -> Prime Earth - Rebirth.

Superman's Rebirth profile would become "Superman (Prime Earth - Rebirth)"

Prime Earth nomenclature includes both N52 and Rebirth phases, so it should be fine.

I don’t necessarily mind this, as long as the current names are left as redirects to the new ones.

What would we do with characters labeled as “Pre-Flashpoint” though?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Currently, we have profiles with "Post-Crisis", "Post-Flashpoint" and "Rebirth" names.

How about we change them to the original and official name?

Pre Crisis -> Earth One.

Post Crisis -> New Earth.

Post Flashopoint -> Prime Earth.

Rebirth -> Prime Earth - Rebirth.

Superman's Rebirth profile would become "Superman (Prime Earth - Rebirth)"

Prime Earth nomenclature includes both N52 and Rebirth phases, so it should be fine.

I'm personally fine with this. Current one sounds cooler but eh

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I don’t necessarily mind this, as long as the current names are left as redirects to the new ones.

What would we do with characters labeled as “Pre-Flashpoint” though?

I guess name them in whatever era they're from? Or split them I suppose

 

[M3X_2.0]

At the same time that I think it’s valid to argue that it’s easier to understand what the page is referring to using Post/Pre terms, I think they should go.

The term “Crisis” has become the standard for DC major events, and we have a lot of Crisis. Obviously when referring to this, we are talking about COIE, but the term “New Earth” and “Prime Earth” tells us they’re referring to two different periods in DC Comics.

What would we do with characters labeled as “Pre-Flashpoint” though?

Pre Flashpoint is either Post Crisis, Pre Crisis or both. We should analyze what the term “Pre Flashpoint” is referring to, before changing it.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Agreed, but wouldn't we also have Earth-2?

What are they called?

 

[LordTracer]

Pre Flashpoint is either Post Crisis, Pre Crisis or both. We should analyze what the term “Pre Flashpoint” is referring to, before changing it.

I mean when it’s referring to both, like with Richard Dragon. His page covers Earth-One and New Earth since he’s the same character across both continuities.

 

[M3X_2.0]

That’s a good question, I’ll work on a solution.

 

[Shadyboi0]

What are they called?

Golden age, yeah its pre crisis, but its not silver age pre crisis

 

[Deagonx]

We also have characters like Doctor Fate (Classic) FWIW

 

[M3X_2.0]

Classic really tells us nothing. At least mention the age. I’ll work on a better solution for everything, was just asking for opinions.

 

[LordTracer]

Agreed, but wouldn't we also have Earth-2?

We already use the Earth-Two designation for characters from that era, see Superman.

 

[Shadyboi0]

We already use the Earth-Two designation for characters from that era, see Superman.

Understood.

 

[M3X_2.0]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/nomenclature-change-for-dc-comics-profiles.153675/

 

[Antvasima]

Well, your suggested naming procedure will be much harder for our members and visitors to keep track of and understand, and require a massive amount of work to properly update all of the page titles and links to them, so I personally prefer our current naming procedure.

In worst case we could always call it "Pre-Original Crisis" and "Post-Original Crisis", or "Pre-1985 Crisis" and "Post-1985 Crisis", but that would also require a lot of work, and we would need willing volunteers to carry it out.

I gave the above response to your suggestion.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

Are the suggested changes to our DC Comics Discussion Rules acceptable for our other staff members here as well?

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Idk if you guys have already seen this but this is pretty neat

 

[Knifeman29]

Is it possible for Failsafe to get a profile?

 

[NHTkenshin2]

Again, just to be clear, no one is doing any form of DC revisions regarding the Sphere of Gods and the Orrery in the next 2 days?

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Has anyone read the mini series Jurassic league, it’s nothing crazy but it has a nice final feat

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Again, just to be clear, no one is doing any form of DC revisions regarding the Sphere of Gods and the Orrery in the next 2 days?

I want to added HAX, not tier, Hax for some characters that exist in TSoG

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

by the way, are the abilities/hax affected by the cosmology split? for example if a mystical being explains that a simple spell (Like Hellfire) is based on affecting the Soul and mind of the target, it could be escalated to others that can use hellfire but within another cosmology?

I speak about whether some powers that are based on the system of cosmology such as the way operation of magic or the Physiology of a mystical race

For example, in a story written by DeMatteis it is said that the Demon race are actually products created by the human Collective Unconscious and cannot die until humanity dies according to Etrigan, it could be said that this can be applied to all demons within any cosmology?

 

[Knifeman29]

I Made a Rough Draft for a failsafe profile.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Iirc @Chariot190 is working on him

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Iirc @Chariot190 is working on him

Me as well, currently waiting for the arc to finish and then make the profile

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

by the way, are the abilities/hax affected by the cosmology split? for example if a mystical being explains that a simple spell (Like Hellfire) is based on affecting the Soul and mind of the target, it could be escalated to others that can use hellfire but within another cosmology?

I speak about whether some powers that are based on the system of cosmology such as the way operation of magic or the Physiology of a mystical race

For example, in a story written by DeMatteis it is said that the Demon race are actually products created by the human Collective Unconscious and cannot die until humanity dies according to Etrigan, it could be said that this can be applied to all demons within any cosmology?

Poke

 

[Deagonx]

My answer would be generally, no, we do not crossover something like that into other verses.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Okey, I guess I'll use all the mechanism that Grant Morrison's/Scott Snyder's/James Tynion IV's gave

 

[NHTkenshin2]

1-C upgrades (I believe it hasn't even been a week since the downgrades)

DC Comics: follow-up upgrades (Part 1)

There is no way people unironically thought anything DC related can get remotely close to Tier 2 lmaoaoaoo rahhhh🇺🇸🇺🇸 These ratings are ass imo, there is no way the Godheads are simply Orrery level when it has been implied numerous times the Sphere defines all aspects of the framework of the...

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[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

Are the suggested changes to our DC Comics Discussion Rules acceptable for our other staff members here as well?

Ping some people.

 

[Antvasima]

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Do you think that the following suggestions seem reasonable?

https://vsbattles.com/threads/general-dc-comics-discussion-thread.139601/post-5741661

 

[ByAsura]

I have no interest in DC, sorry.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Seems fine.

 

[Excellence616]

@Eficiente @Qawsedf234 @SuperAPM @Firestorm808 @EmperorRorepmeTwo @LuciferDC099 @Ehnkr2beboh @Deagonx @Elizio33 @MarvelFanatic119 @catzlaflame @Kulf_Boba @LephyrTheRevanchist @Lightning_XXI @Stefano4444 @LuciferX @Vasco @Excel616 @Immortalgodd @JohnCenaNation @Robo @VeryGoofyToddler @LephyrTheRevanchist @ByAsura @Emirp sumitpo @DarkDragonMedeus @Maverick_Zero_X @Zensum @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Hykuu @KingEzran @Dark-Carioca

Do you think that the following suggestions seem reasonable?

https://vsbattles.com/threads/general-dc-comics-discussion-thread.139601/post-5741661

Make sense. It looks okay

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for the replies.

Are any of you willing to apply the rules change please, @DarkDragonMedeus , @Just_a_Random_Butler , and @Dereck03 ?

 

[Just_a_Random_Butler]

Thank you for the replies.

Are any of you willing to apply the rules change please, @DarkDragonMedeus , @Just_a_Random_Butler , and @Dereck03 ?

Can I ask what and where are the changes?

 

[Antvasima]

See here please:

https://vsbattles.com/threads/general-dc-comics-discussion-thread.139601/post-5741661

 

[Just_a_Random_Butler]

See here please:

https://vsbattles.com/threads/general-dc-comics-discussion-thread.139601/post-5741661

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I have applied the discussed changes. Is it alright?

 

[Antvasima]

Discussion Rules

VS Battles Wiki is a site where the members attempt to index the statistics of characters across different fictional franchises. These efforts lead to much discussion about certain feats, statements and calculations regarding their validity, reliability, etc. However, certain topics keep popping...

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I have applied the discussed changes. Is it alright?

I think so, but it would be best with confirmations from @Deagonx , @Elizio33 , and @IdiosyncraticLawyer .

 

[Antvasima]

Just a note that the following interview gives me great hope that James Gunn will treat Superman and other DC Comics characters very well. Grant Morrison has a great grasp of how they are at their best.

Grant Morrison - Interview Magazine

With two new series—perhaps his bleakest yet—the groovy magus of comics proves yet again to be the great polymath visionary of the form.

www.interviewmagazine.com

 

[Qawsedf234]

Do you think that the following suggestions seem reasonable?

Overall I'm fine with them.