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General DC Comics Discussion Thread

Sen said:
not sure if it fits

•First In Cosmology Joshua williamson himself brought Overvoid in the Cosmology, while JM DeMatteis himself brought the Divine Presence and He Himself did not know what Overvoid was

•second,Cosmology of Joshua williamson Not brought Pralaya itself is like what DeMatteis brought in the Comic he wrote
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The term Overvoid / overmonitor is not known for everyone . However , the concept of void is known by ever DC writer. It's the canvas on which writers creates their stories.

Demattis referred to the void that exists beyond all the voids in the DC Multiverse ( which includes cosmic ocean /Pralaya)

Even Allan moore referred it in swamp thing run.

In Joshua Williamson run The great darkness is above the light( which he referred from Grant Morrison's animal man cosmology)

Jm demattis views it as an aspect of God the same way as Joshua Williamson.

There is no such as Divine presence . The presence is one diety with multiple names . Vertigo definition of the presence doesn't fit here .

In Grant Morrison Cosmology The presence is not even given that importance.
It's simply
The Overvoid
The source
Monitors
and brohm theory of DC Multiverse .

According to Joshua Williamson and Demattis The God is far beyond the Darkness like pralaya /GEB .
The source which appeared in john Stewart confirms it .
 
AndrewBennet said:
The term Overvoid / overmonitor is not known for everyone . However , the concept of void is known by ever DC writer. It's the canvas on which writers creates their stories.

Demattis referred to the void that exists beyond all the voids in the DC Multiverse ( which includes cosmic ocean /Pralaya)

Even Allan moore referred it in swamp thing run.

In Joshua Williamson run The great darkness is above the light( which he referred from Grant Morrison's animal man cosmology)

Jm demattis views it as an aspect of God the same way as Joshua Williamson.

There is no such as Divine presence . The presence is one diety with multiple names . Vertigo definition of the presence doesn't fit here .

In Grant Morrison Cosmology The presence is not even given that importance.
It's simply
The Overvoid
The source
Monitors
and brohm theory of DC Multiverse .

According to Joshua Williamson and Demattis The God is far beyond the Darkness like pralaya /GEB .
The source which appeared in john Stewart confirms it .
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DeMatteis doesn't acknowledge the Map afaik unlike Williamson. Divine Presence is the Presence even in Vertigo. Not sure why people are so stuck about "Divine Presence". The Presence does appear in Morrison's Animal Run as the God of Heaven who draws the comic. The existence of a "void" isn't any proof of anything. The Void beyond all Voids predates the Overvoid by nearly half a decade.
 
AndrewBennet said:
The term Overvoid / overmonitor is not known for everyone . However , the concept of void is known by ever DC writer. It's the canvas on which writers creates their stories.

Demattis referred to the void that exists beyond all the voids in the DC Multiverse ( which includes cosmic ocean /Pralaya)

Even Allan moore referred it in swamp thing run.

In Joshua Williamson run The great darkness is above the light( which he referred from Grant Morrison's animal man cosmology)
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Alan Moore did not refer to the void or the Overvoid in his Swamp Thing run, "the light" referred to the Presence. It had nothing to do with the "Great Light" from Animal Man. In Williamson's recent run he combined the origin story of the Great Darkness and the Overvoid, and fashioned the "Light" as referring to both the Overvoid and the Presence.
 

:sneaky:
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It’s Clark’s Warworld costume.

But yes, the implication is that he and Lois use it for kink-related things
 
Antvasima said:
What does the tweet say? I have disabled my Twitter access.
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Joshua Williamson:
One of our goals for the new SUPERMAN series was to shine a light on Superman's awesome and iconic rogues gallery.

But then also create NEW dangerous enemies for Superman!

And two of those new villains have their first appearances in SUPERMAN #1!

Pre-order today!
 
Vondoom said:
Joshua Williamson:
One of our goals for the new SUPERMAN series was to shine a light on Superman's awesome and iconic rogues gallery.

But then also create NEW dangerous enemies for Superman!

And two of those new villains have their first appearances in SUPERMAN #1!

Pre-order today!
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Probably Superman punking Lucifer in the future
 
Deagonx said:
Alan Moore did not refer to the void or the Overvoid in his Swamp Thing run, "the light" referred to the Presence. It had nothing to do with the "Great Light" from Animal Man. In Williamson's recent run he combined the origin story of the Great Darkness and the Overvoid, and fashioned the "Light" as referring to both the Overvoid and the Presence.
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Who is the great light from Animal man ?
 
AndrewBennet said:
Then I don't see any difference between Joshua Williamsons portrayal of Overvoid.
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I am not sure why you're so stuck with Void. The Light was just a manifestation of the vast absence behind reality in Animal Man from where Universes unfold whereas its completely different in Williamson's. I don't think the Great Darkness even exists there. You just seem to be looking at it on a very superficial level.
 
Antvasima said:
The World Forger should have straight Supergenius intelligence, yes.

The BWL's "Likely Supergenius" rating can probably be justified by referring to him building a machine that would use the Monitor and Anti-Monitor to blow up the multiverse, outsmarting Perpetua, and being comparable to Lex Luthor.
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This still needs to be done, yes.
 
Well, an "At least Extraordinary Genius" rating might be warranted, given that he is sometimes displayed as comparable to Brainiac.
 
Okay. Lex is a bit uncertain though, as I don't think he has any actual feats quite on that scale. It is more about scaling from his interactions with Brainiac and TBWL.
 
Antvasima said:
Okay. Lex is a bit uncertain though, as I don't think he has any actual feats quite on that scale. It is more about scaling from his interactions with Brainiac and TBWL.
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Yeah I think his scaling is pretty solid in that regard. But we could leave it as "possibly" if that's preferable.
 
Hmm. Maybe "At least Extraordinary Genius" for Lex and "Extraordinary Genius" for Batman then? Or should Lex also just get a regular "Extraordinary Genius" rating, with him sometimes holding his own against Brainiac or TBWL being considered as plot-induced stupidity?
 
Antvasima said:
Hmm. Maybe "At least Extraordinary Genius" for Lex and "Extraordinary Genius" for Batman then? Or should Lex also just get a regular "Extraordinary Genius" rating, with him sometimes holding his own against Brainiac or TBWL being considered as plot-induced stupidity?
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@Deagonx
 
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