Fire and Lightning ~ Cole vs. Natsu

[DragonEmperor23]

The first time yeah. No, it's actual electricity, it's been discussed in many threads. I'll find one of them after I post this. No, that's a misconception. Lightning Flame Dragon Mode actually just stayed with Natsu for the rest of the series and he could use it whenever he wanted. For the God Slayer's flames, he wasn't damaged because he ate the flames but because Zancrow was beating Natsu up and was about to kill him before Natsu figured out the trick. It's shown with Sting that going into the fused mode actually makes you more energized.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

@Lance

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2314741

 

[CNBA3]

Natsu having Lightning element would be able to handle his electrical attacks relatively easily

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I'm kinda tired of Natsu matches...

 

[Schnee_One]

I'm kinda tired of Natsu matches...

Says everyone

 

[The_Calaca]

Says everyone

Agree.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

^

 

[Schnee_One]

Seriously there's dozens of FT characters and yet the only ones ever used are Natsu, Zeref, Erza and August, with very few exceptions

I for one, wouldn't mind a Kagura match, or Ultear, or Dimaria....

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Low 7-B is bit rare to find, but then again MK might be bumped to Low 7-B so i can try.

Of course i will use Ultear tho :^)

 

[CNBA3]

The other characters could get more attention if they get higher stats

 

[The_Calaca]

That's BS. They don't need higher stats to get matches. It's a popularity thing.

 

[CNBA3]

Nothing suggests they are not exempt from getting upgrades anyway

 

[The_Calaca]

Current feats, calcs and scaling do.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

And that has nothing to do with them not getting matches.

 

[Schnee_One]

Okay who has a match for Kagura, after today I need one

 

[CNBA3]

Who happens to have the highest stats in their verse? Natsu and those who are in his league. But that does not matter, as they still have room to improve, here is a question, if it is a matter of popularity, then why are they not made?

 

[Schnee_One]

Because they are objectively the most popular characters in the verse?

Erza is far from the strongest in her verse, yet she's spammed a metric ton.

Natsu is only 3rd in his verse. Yet he's spammed

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Because the MCs and big bads are more popular than side characters? Pretty simple answer.

 

[CNBA3]

Yet those two have the most attention on a Crossover Battle website, that does not speak for popularity

 

[AnonymousBlank]

If they have the most attention, they are more popular.

 

[The_Calaca]

Because the MCs and big bads are more popular than side characters? Pretty simple answer.

True.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yet those two have the most attention on a Crossover Battle website, that does not speak for popularity

You have proved my point flawlessly. Thank you.

 

[CNBA3]

Well they stand on top of the rest of the verse as being some of the strongest, so they get the most attention

 

[Schnee_One]

Acnologia never gets matches and he's the god tier

Zeref is the most haxed.

If we're talking pure strength, Natsu is pointless in that regard as he's beaten by Acno

 

[CNBA3]

Acno has had a few matches in the past, same with Zeref, Natsu was the one that defeated Acno of course, but that is besides the point as he is one of the strongest and gets lots of treatment

 

[AnonymousBlank]

He gets matches because he is the main character, has the most showings in the series and thus a solid power set. His strength has nothing to do with it when its usually his weaker keys that get used.

 

[CNBA3]

Only to selectively choose with opponents he gets to fight without going all out. But that still does not take away from my point that no other characters known besides the top main cast gets the matches in

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Cause people make matches without knowing the actual story and the characters from it so they just choose ones that they hear about a lot.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

I know, we all do. Its due to poularity, not power. Now lets stop derailing this thread. What can Cole do aside from the lightning?

 

[CNBA3]

Cause people make matches without knowing the actual story and the characters from it so they just choose ones that they hear about a lot.

Some times they do and they just go by just story without Calcing , and that leads to many complications without thinking it through

 

[Schnee_One]

Acno has had a few matches in the past, same with Zeref, Natsu was the one that defeated Acno of course, but that is besides the point as he is one of the strongest and gets lots of treatment

Natsu never defeated Dragon Acno, not once.

Acno has very few matches compared to Natsu, that point is simply false

 

[CNBA3]

Still had them and more memberable compared to others, and yes, Natsu did defeate him at the end of the series

 

[Schnee_One]

No he didn't?

He defeated Human Acno, and actively stated he couldn't defeat Dragon Scno, that's the entire reason he even won the last battle. So no, he never defeated Acno

Your point was that the most powerful characters get matches, that simply isn't the reason

 

[CNBA3]

No, that is still Acno, as that is his spirit, it makes no difference. Yes, the strongest characters do get the most attention as there are no other matches made out to other characters otherwise

 

[The_Calaca]

Guys, stop derailing. This isn't a discussion thread but a match.

 

[Schnee_One]

Uhh.

Acnologia literally has two keys to represent both his human and Dragon spirit. If there's really no difference, and there is, make a CRT.

Natsu and Erza being spammed, especially in Ezra's case, says otherwise

And Cal is correct, derailing is pointless

 

[CNBA3]

No, he is both body and spirit by the end of the series, being since both can still use magic, the spirit manages the space between time, nothing states that is his weakest form since Magic is the produce of both spirit and nature. Being spammed is not substitute for not being some of the strongest in their series.

Then let's not do it

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Okay, so now that we got that out of the way. Natsu can eat Cole's lightning and amp himself from it. Would Cole continue to use electricity after seeing this?

 

[AnonymousBlank]

On the Laxus vs Cole thread, it was established Laxus couldn't do it since Cole kills people who absorb electricity with his electricity. Natsu does have his trick to eat it though but Cole may stop using it after it gets eaten a few times.

 

[Schnee_One]

No, he is both body and spirit by the end of the series, being since both can still use magic, the spirit manages the space between time, nothing states that is his weakest form since Magic is the produce of both spirit and nature. Being spammed is not substitute for not being some of the strongest in their series.

Then don't do it

Why are you doing it yourself then.

@Dragon he probably tries to biodrain Natsu