Fairy tail dragons speed revision

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

The feat's high end is 1 minute which is MHS+

The low end which we used is simply MHS.

Calc here : http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=31160


If you take a look at the scans of the dragons when shown to cross continents:




There was 3000 faces and 4 dragons in total.Dividing that number each would get an average of 750 faces to destroy.

Metallicana was shown to destroy 13 at once timeframe a second since they all blew up at the same time when he destroyed it.

750/13 = 57.69 seconds each with a bit of low ball 1 minute.

The context suggests the feat was done within seconds even the high end is low balling a bit so i believe at the very least it should be accepted.

 

[Alakabamm]

You mean that we used the low end, which was MHS and that the high end was not used. I'd rather use the low end because we don't have anything close to confirmation of the timespan in the manga, let alone seconds.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

You mean that we used the low end, which was MHS and that the high end was not used. I'd rather use the low end because we don't have anything close to confirmation of the timespan in the manga, let alone seconds.

I said High end and yes we do (The face marks are dissapearing one after another..)

They crossed the distances in between at once otherwise happy wouldnt have said that.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

You mean that we used the low end, which was MHS and that the high end was not used. I'd rather use the low end because we don't have anything close to confirmation of the timespan in the manga, let alone seconds.

Still, 5 minutes is too much. It actually looks like it was done under a minute, imo.

 

[Alakabamm]

"The face marks are disappearing one after the other" doesn't imply seconds for the entire feat when there were thousands of faces.

 

[Faisal_Shourov]

I like how comic books normally give us the timeframe, which makes calc so much easier.

Anyway, kinda agree with Alakabamm that we take low end when we do assumption, since there's no given time frame. As for what the low end should be, I don't have an opinion

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

"The face marks are disappearing one after the other" doesn't imply seconds for the entire feat when there were thousands of faces.

Thousands the map clearly showed 20 at most.

 

[Alakabamm]

There was 3000, go back and look at the manga

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

There were 3000 go back and look.

I did my bad there in any case however if metalicana was shown to blitz through many at once either way

 

[Primaris_Brian]

You mean that we used the low end, which was MHS and that the high end was not used. I'd rather use the low end because we don't have anything close to confirmation of the timespan in the manga, let alone seconds.

Still, 5 minutes is too much. It actually looks like it was done under a minute, imo.

Agree, as far as i know the dragons is come to destroy all the face in the very last seconds when the faces is about to be activated.

 

[Alakabamm]

Face was already active.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

@Not Jim Sterling Actually, some of the Faces were already activated, whether they were active or not isn't relevant. Grandine is the first dragon we see destroying the Faces, and reading the chapter again, it looks like they're doing it all at the same time, in a few seconds. 1 minute is way too low, even for a low end.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Face was already active.

Nope they were activating all over the continent i edited my post

@Not Jim thx for the info btw i forgot bout that

 

[Primaris_Brian]

hmm but the dragons is manage to destroy all the face without even one of them dealing too much damage, but i guess the next question is how long is need for the face in order to destroy the entire magic particle in a continent.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

@CHILL They were active. Here:

http://www.*********.co/manga/fairy_tail/v38/c412/12.html

This is page 12. The first Face is destroyed in page 19.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

@CHILL They were active. Here:
http://www.*********.co/manga/fairy_tail/v38/c412/12.html

This is page 12. The first Face is destroyed in page 19.

Referring to them across the continent but yeah it was

 

[Primaris_Brian]

by the way is there are any scans that say how is the face destructive capability? i mean if the face need minutes to destroy the entire magic in a continent, then there are no way the dragons is need 5 minute to destroy all of the face without letting the face destroy much of the magic in entire continent.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

It doesn't even matter if the Faces were active or not. What matters is how long the dragons took to destroy them all.

http://www.*********.co/manga/fairy_tail/v38/c412/18.html

http://www.*********.co/manga/fairy_tail/v38/c412/19.html

http://www.*********.co/manga/fairy_tail/v38/c412/20.html

http://www.*********.co/manga/fairy_tail/v38/c412/21.html

http://www.*********.co/manga/fairy_tail/v38/c412/22.html

http://www.*********.co/manga/fairy_tail/v38/c412/23.html

This is the feat. I still think 1 minute is too slow.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

There's this in which case the ships magic was being drained rappidly which would mean everyone would probably have died.

Since they were also being drained.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

@CHILL And why is this relevant again?

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

@NotEvenHuman

Lucy mentioned her strenght being drained and fell on the ground

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Yeah i remember makarov is almost died when his magic is been forcibly removed from his body.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

@CHILL Yeah, and? As i already said, the Faces being active or not doesn't make a difference, because it was never explained if the Faces would erase all magic instantly or if it would be over time. The only thing that matters is how much time did it take for them to destroy all of those Faces.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

@NotEvenHuman

Nvm then the feat by context is done within seconds though thats for sure.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

This calc : http://www.millenniumforums.com/sho...e-skies-of-Ishgar-(Fairy-Tail-calc-revisited)

Pretty much explained everything including the timeframe and the faces

 

[Primaris_Brian]

This calc : http://www.millenniumforums.com/sho...e-skies-of-Ishgar-(Fairy-Tail-calc-revisited)
Pretty much explained everything including the timeframe and the faces

And he even only using 2,000 instead of 3000 face in his calculation.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Yup that's also mentioned in the comments.

 

[Alakabamm]

I don't accept 1 minute as even close to the timeframe, There is nothing there which implies seconds. The fact that Happy says "one after the other" and that there are 3000 Faces even suggest that they could only do a couple faces per second, max.

So if I was really generous, 3000/12 (3 for each dragon per second) = 250 seconds = 4 minutes 10 seconds

Basically the low end.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

There were 2000 faces and they only needed to destroy 200 judging by the map to stop the chain reaction

 

[Alakabamm]

There were 3000 faces. I didn't even see anything like 200 mentioned anywhere.

Also, the map you see is Fiore. Not Ishgar.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

http://*********.com/Manga/Fairy-Tail/Fairy-Tail-387--Father-and-child?id=198512

^2000 Faces

And I'm aware of the map being fiore

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

http://www.**********.com/fairy-tail/389/8

^And the bombs couldn't be activated at the same time it was only one after another by chain reaction I believe that's what the calc was referring to.

 

[Alakabamm]

Nope

http://www.mangahawk.com/read/fairy-tail/389/7

Straight from the words of the Tartarus leaders' mouth

There is nothing about chain reactions anywhere in the manga. That's speculation.

 

[Primaris_Brian]

emmm but in the next page:

http://www.mangahawk.com/read/fairy-tail/389/8

minerva say it is impossible to activate all 3000 face at the same time
which quickly been denied by the Tartarus leader.

anyway i'm going to off for couple of hours.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Nvm then the 3000 was used in the calc it seems.

And I don't know why he mentioned that if it wasn't in the manga..

Either way even lector proved it to be done within seconds he said they "just" dissapeared

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Edited the post and yeah im logging off for a while too.

 

[Alakabamm]

Lector was pointing at a big "signal lost" message. There was absolutely zero reference to timespan.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Chapter 413 he literally mentioned the faces...

 

[Alakabamm]

and in chapter 413 you will literally see the same thing I just said

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

He wasnt otherwise he wouldnt mention them dissapearing....