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1. I thought we scaled Dragon Gods above Fairy Heart Zeref no?
2. Also I am only counting modes he can access at will without needing emotion enhancements and burning his soul and outside assistance anyways
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Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest Discussion Thread: Post-Void Saga
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2. Also I am only counting modes he can access at will without needing emotion enhancements and burning his soul and outside assistance anyways
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hmmm, i would have put kiria above madmole via hax , also natsu can be argued to be above suzaku with his ( natsu) dragon force but it is debatable
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1. Mainly just scaling them AP wise/Physically
2. I need a fight or statement or something that compares Suzaku and New Dragon Force Natsu fr before I jump to final conclusions, for now I just put Suzaku above him for beating a prime DG
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Eh, Kiria's hax is good, but Madmole tanked a FDKM attack which was from someone 4 times stronger than him, and he still got up. Without Kiria's hax (which doesn't work on those with inferiority complexes), she got 2-shot by someone on par with FDKM Natsu.
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1. The Dragon Forms of the Dragon Gods scale above FH Zeref, but not the Human Forms
2. He can access Savage Dragon Fire at will, just under extremely intense scenarios, it’s very much his own power without assistance
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About the madmole defense is his whole thing so his durability scales far above his AP ( he is an armor dragon slayer after all), while kyria seens to be more AP and speed based
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1. Ah, I think that debatable but whatever
2. U know what I meant
3. What did u think of the overall list though I made? Accurate or nah?
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Extremely accurate but i would make a a+ tier and put irene their. And i would either put kyria madmole and skullion at the end of A or put sting at the front of B. Since I think they are relative to sting
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Eh
Not counting Suzaku and Geroge
I don't have the other Diablos members scaling to the top 4 spriggan yet ( August, Irene Larcade and Serena )
August, Irene and Larcade for obvious reasons
And Serena because I still don't think Serena would lose to current Erza and Laxus cause Gildarts scaling and all that
We know in 100 Year Quest it confirmed Gildarts is still the strongest FT mage after Natsu but we also don't know if he's gotten stronger yet
So as of now I still have his power the same as it was in Alvarez
Which means Laxus and Erza still aren't Alvarez Gildarts tier therefore not serena tier who is comparable to gildarts in his purple eye mode
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Oh i agree there not stronger than the top 4 spriggans but neither is sting. I have them around sting level since he only beat larcade because of immunity and help from kagura and rouge. So i feel like they should be on the same tier as sting
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I have Sting above them cause White Shadow Dragon Mode which made him comparable to Larcade physically even if he needed help to win in the end once Larcade unleashed his full power
Man Sting got a stupid ass zenkai boost
Man went from getting stomped by Base Bloodman even with his entire Guild's help to matching Larcade
BRUH
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I think sting is above them just in the same tier as them.
Dragon slayer immunity came in clutch. Plus random zenkai mashima just did not want larcade to win
Hey emotion amps do be coming in handy. Even if the amp he gets doesn't make sense
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^My List
- Didn't count White Shadow Dragon Force Sting ( cause I don't remember if he can use that mode at will or not )
- Did not count 3rd Origin Chelia
- Did not count Limit Breaker Modes ( Elentir arc )
- Didn't count Irene Mode Wendy
- Didn't count Savage Fire Dragon or 7 Fire Dragon Natsu
What do y'all think of my list?
I think it mostly fine, bar maybe the 2nd and 3rd row of the Low-Mid Spriggan class ( where I started having trouble, top row of it is fine though bar maybe juvia )
^My List
- Didn't count White Shadow Dragon Force Sting ( cause I don't remember if he can use that mode at will or not )
- Did not count 3rd Origin Chelia
- Did not count Limit Breaker Modes ( Elentir arc )
- Didn't count Irene Mode Wendy
- Didn't count Savage Fire Dragon or 7 Fire Dragon Natsu
What do y'all think of my list?
I think it mostly fine, bar maybe the 2nd and 3rd row of the Low-Mid Spriggan class ( where I started having trouble, top row of it is fine though bar maybe juvia )
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I think animus is too high and cobra is too low
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I put Animus that high counting that he absorbed Dragon Cry ( a weapon that can bust the continent and possibly the world )
Cobra is that low cause he didn't have much going for him in the final arc iirc
Any other issues?
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Are they in order from weakest to stronger ?
because the tiers are solid i would only change some placements
Theendzero13
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Also about the animus thing i don't think he absorved the entire dragon cry
And cobra well..he did not do much in the final arc but has solid speed scaling by keeping up with the other dragonslayes and the guy doesn't need ap feata since he null dura anyway
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Is you going for only raw power or hax as well?
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Mainly raw power but you probably incorporate hax and still get the same result mostly tbh
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Okay in that case, for once i think that ignell is bellow any dragon god
And i also think that full power dragon force natsu is above them
After that there ain't much i disagree
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Just thought about this, am I the only one who wants Erza to get a Dragon Slayer form and not just a sword? I mean, they could just say that she got DS Magic from her mother, but was protected enough as to not be at risk of becoming a Dragon.
It'd be a cool upgrade for her.
Also in the list above, Animus is waaaaay too high. And Cana shouldn't even be on that list, without Fairy Glitter she is kind of pathetic.
It'd be a cool upgrade for her.
Also in the list above, Animus is waaaaay too high. And Cana shouldn't even be on that list, without Fairy Glitter she is kind of pathetic.
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I wouldn't say so
Even a near Dead Igneel was pushing a suppressed Acnologia and tore off his arm
on top of Aldoron directly comparing New Dragon Force Natsu magic power to Igneel and Ignia ( same Natsu who one shot God Seed Aldoron )
On top of in one translation iirc Ignia refers to Igneel as the strongest Fire Dragon ( possibly making him stronger than ignia, at least comparable )
Theendzero13
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Yeah fighting acnologia is good since it prives ignell is on that tier but not on those levels as the dragon gods are comparable/superior to acnologia and ignell is bellow acnologia
Aldoron can also be talking about the feel/sensation of the magic not necesseraly the power
Now i don't remember aldoron calling ignell the strongest fire dragon but since the guy was im slumber for god knows how long i doubt he knows about ignia current power since he was getting stronger and eventually
"Surpassed" acnologia in his words
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1. True
2. That is also true but iirc @DemonGodMitchAubin said the raw kanji or whatever was a direct comparison of power
3. I said Ignia said that actually, not Aldoron
4. I also just thought of another reason, the zenkai boost Acnologia got from killing Igneel amped him to Dragon God level, it put war arc human acno on fh zeref tier or comparable and the site scales FH zeref to human form DGs
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I mean point 2 and 4 are possible
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*Doesn't count Savage Dragon Fire Form Natsu even tho that's Natsu's own Full Power
Also yeah, Animus is too high, dude did not absorb all of Dragon Cry's Power, far from it, he absorbed only 16 Beams from the potential Billions of Beams across the Continent, so he took only a mere fraction of the Dragon Cry's Power into himself
Also yeah, Animus is too high, dude did not absorb all of Dragon Cry's Power, far from it, he absorbed only 16 Beams from the potential Billions of Beams across the Continent, so he took only a mere fraction of the Dragon Cry's Power into himself
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No clue why current Natsu isn’t on the list. Literally him at his strongest.
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1. Don't start with me Mitch I've already told my reasonings about that form*Doesn't count Savage Dragon Fire Form Natsu even tho that's Natsu's own Full Power
Also yeah, Animus is too high, dude did not absorb all of Dragon Cry's Power, far from it, he absorbed only 16 Beams from the potential Billions of Beams across the Continent, so he took only a mere fraction of the Dragon Cry's Power into himself
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2. I have to re-watch Dragon Cry, hardly remember anything
3. What about the rest of the list?
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Literally put Natsu in the god tiers bro, u blind?
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For me, the list only constitutes the top row which Natsu is most certainly not a part of. Natsu would bop Acno.Literally put Natsu in the god tiers bro, u blind?
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Current Natsu ain't even bopping Selene or Ignia let alone ROST Acnologia
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