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Yea except there is also another quote from the game that says the savior is holding many melted down bodies and souls of demons within him
Good for you, Sanctus clearly says their bodies will be melted and become the core of the savior, nothing about his soul.
I will explain the whole high godly state and why it's necessary later but for now you know that poc explicitly says that they regenerate back as long as "they persist" meaning what we hearing is most likely nero will(which isn't something new given characters like zamasu are capable of existing as pure will only)
Then it isn't a high godly state and this won't work. There has to be literally nothing of them to come back.
and melted = gone in this case because his body,soul,mind,concept and memories are gone no longer existing
Nice, now you know why Dante SPECIFICALLY NEEDED YAMATO TO SAVE HIM, this isn't something he can do.
did but nothing in the page mentions that willpower also is necessarily to be gone to get high godly regeneration
It says you must be gone, including the most fundamental part of your existence and wouldn't you know it? DMC clearly states names are that and everything, literally everything for a demon is in the soul. To believe they have some sort of will independent of the soul (that literally contains everything) is baseless, not only that but the quote literally says "All but the weakest demons do not care what they lose, their bodies, their names, their souls or everything"
This "persist" thing can't be anything and certainly it isn't some kind of willpower.
Yea but the problem is that the yamato went through it only it didn't got destroyed like the rest and it's clearly fine as you can see
1) the gem is destroyed, you can literally see that shit 2) Yamato doesn't need to destroy the gem to do the separation stuff anyways 3)Watch the whole video, all the gems are destroyed in a similar fashion. For reference destroyed isn't the same as erased, I can destroy a wall and it could only have a big ass hole in the middle, I can destroy a phone and it can be pretty much in one piece, etc, etc.
Then he could have y'know used yamato way earlier instead of trying to destroy every single gem on the savior especially since his main goal is to save nero
Its not my fault they decided to create a story and keep the people entertained with some stakes and fights instead of cutting the PIS away and ending everything immediately.
can "game is rushed" works as a counter argument?
Considering the novel only says one, 1, uno, gems was destroyed and the game actually shows all of them... no, not even in a million years
The page for high godly says that to you need to regenerate from being destroyed physically,mentally,spiritually and one more fundamental aspect doesn't matter if it is conceptually,narratively,informationlly(is that even a word?) or any kinda of fundamental aspect of your being and also the whole high godly state thing is the only thing that separates it being a regeneration feat or a resurrection feat since there are characters who have a absurd levels of resurrection like coming back from being from existence and such
See above. The difference between resurrection and regeneration is that the first one brings you back to life, it doesn't necessarily brings a body or a concept without further context, second one is meant to reconstruct your body and whatever pieces are missing up to whatever fundamental shit was gone
Well yea because in dmc4 nero needs the yamato to activate his devil trigger which have much regeneration to his base with all the physiology shenanigans
Two things here, Nero doesn't have a devil trigger in 4, the spectral shit is more like a stand forced out by Yamato than a DT and Nero gained all the basic physiology shit when he was "awakened" by Yamato, he doesn't need it anymore to keep that stuff.
Wut? you can't say that he will be confident that he killed him if he didn't see him dying because the scene you brought is makes it vague and if that actually dante perspective then it should strike him more of confusion more than confidence
That's pure logic. If I shoot someone in the head/torso/vital area I will be 100% confident I killed them and yet there can be a ton of factors that can happen for that someone to not die, same thing here. The key is that Dante mortally wounds Mundus and sees him trying to flee only to start getting vaped and bam he is back in the demon world. From his PoV (which is our PoV as players too, remember that little detail) Mundus is dead.
Yea except I'm not comparing in there potency I'm just saying that he if a weaker version was to shows it like instinct reaction
Thats literally what you were implying with the whole "a younger version has the same ability so he should do it" Is the same thing as saying that Vol 1 Dante can soul hax Mundus because DMC2 Dante has that power.
Again if this is actually exactly how dante saw it then he should be confused about it like if the scene went all flashy and white how that's make him sure he killed him it makes no sense like he didn't die infort of him
Already explained it above, not only that but Mundus is presumably inside the pocket dimension at that point too so the likely hood of Dante sensing him is nonexistent.
That's because one is completely dead while the other is trying to regenerate back and dante was more talking about the island collapse and was more on the assumption that the explosion of the island was going to kill them
There you go, he was trying to regenerate and accomplished nothing (considering he is exactly the same as the last time we see him). Dante was literally talking about Mundus, this is literally shown when the fight ends and Dante is tired af and Mundus mocking him for it.
Its literally him knowing he will die at Mundus hands but with the satisfaction that Mundus will perish there due to the last fight.
My next post is the last, hopefully this can finally end.