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Honestly, I'm not even sure myself anymore.So what are the conclusions here so far?
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Honestly, I'm not even sure myself anymore.So what are the conclusions here so far?
We are now waiting for what glass have to say tho it seems that he could be very busy since it's been 3 or 4 days since his last responseSo what are the conclusions here so far?
We ain't ready for that yet fam. Glass clearly stated to hold this off until the game showed more evidence.•low 1C for the demon realm as in dmc3 manga scan the human world which is an entire universe and have it's own space-time continuum was considered to be like a line compared to the demon realm and stated to be infinite in comparison to that line and in the soul scan it was stated that the souls originates and return to a higher dimension (it could either referring to a certain section in the demon realm or the demon realm itself but either way it doesn't matter)
Aight no problem
The scan for self sustenance type 3
The scans for low1C demon realm
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/566426072380604426/823944498342002699/devil_may_cry_3_1_6.jpg
Just for context the last scan the whole light and darkness are reference to the human and demon realms as the light represents the human world while darkness represents the demon world so basically it's just another names for the realms
iirc glass was more talking about the 9D stuff as a whole as more not trusting that statement thinking it could mean something else and I remember him saying the those evidence could at best make the cosmology up to low 1C so not necessarily he agrees with it but it seems that he doesn't think it's completely impossible to argue for itWe ain't ready for that yet fam. Glass clearly stated to hold this off until the game showed more evidence.
Merely a higher dimension ain't enough anymore, it needs to be something akin to a "exists x number of levels of infinite qualitative superiority higher than the Human World" or some shit, but guessing how far Peak of Combat has gone, it will most likely come into existence sooner or later.
But right now we're only dealing with hax and regen, and nothing else.
That is correct, yes.Merely a higher dimension ain't enough anymore, it needs to be something akin to a "exists x number of levels of infinite qualitative superiority higher than the Human World"
Not exactly, I talked with him and he clearly asked to wait a while longer. He's open to accepting it if further evidence arrives, which I'm not exactly doubting.iirc glass was more talking about the 9D stuff as a whole as more not trusting that statement thinking it could mean something else and I remember him saying the those evidence could at best make the cosmology up to low 1C so not necessarily he agrees with it but it seems that he doesn't think it's completely impossible to argue for itand the higher dimensions experts okayed it before so I don't know what is it missing
But I'll keep the low1C argument aside for another time and maybe make it's own thread if possible
Ultima said as much, saying that the 9-D souls stuff is hax range only for now (Until more conclusive evidence arises, since the game is not yet complete).That is correct, yes.
Aight no problem we could waitNot exactly, I talked with him and he clearly asked to wait a while longer. He's open to accepting it if further evidence arrives, which I'm not exactly doubting.
Basically, wait until the game gives out more info, could prolly be months before all the details are finished, but I'd suggest keeping an eye out for them.Aight no problem we could wait
KkBasically, wait until the game gives out more info, could prolly be months before all the details are finished, but I'd suggest keeping an eye out for them.
Anyway, if somebody can summarise what we currently need to evaluate and decide here, and which members that support what, particularly among our staff, that would be appreciated.So what are the conclusions here so far?
Basically...Anyway, if somebody can summarise what we currently need to evaluate and decide here, and which members that support what, particularly among our staff, that would be appreciated.
Some of the staff members are busy last I checked.Okay. Should I send a notification to several of our staff members about that then?
Maybe after DarkGrath gives his opinion we can contact the other staff members.
I'm not sure if it's a common misconception, but I am female.Grath said he'll give his opinion on this, so better wait for him.
Well I definitely know that...maybe the rest of them mistakenly said it out of force of habit.I'm not sure if it's a common misconception, but I am female.
Aight no problem
The scan for self sustenance type 3
The scans for low1C demon realm
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/566426072380604426/823944498342002699/devil_may_cry_3_1_6.jpg
Just for context the last scan the whole light and darkness are reference to the human and demon realms as the light represents the human world while darkness represents the demon world so basically it's just another names for the realms
ah, i didn't know that before sorry, any way to answer your questions, we couldn't find a source to translate every statement we have including the EE one so we had to rely on OCR & machine translation( but we did get members to translate the most important statements. the soul statement did get translated by jason smith here and the one for demon regeneration hereI'm not sure if it's a common misconception, but I am female.
deepl translation : The Soul It continues to hide mysteries that neither humans nor demons understand, but that all possess. A fundamental nine-dimensional form that generally originates and returns to a higher dimension beyond the eightfold path. It contains not only the mind and memories, but also all information about the Being and its ancestors since the beginning of time.
here's the regen one also:human translation : The Soul It continues to hide mysteries that humans and demons don't understand, mysteries but every human has such. A basic nine-dimensional form, generally speaking, it originates from and returns to a higher dimension beyond the Eightfold Path. It not only contains the mind and memory, but also contains all the information of the body and its ancestors since ancient times.
deepl:
Demons
Creatures that have existed since before the creation of the human world, spawned by the primordial chaos that preceded reality and formed by the demon world. All but the weakest demons do not care what they lose, their bodies, their names, their souls or everything, as long as they persist they can regenerate and continue fighting without rest.
we could get the other ones translated if need be. but it'll probably take a bit, since there are so many. alsohuman: demons Living beings who already existed before the human world, birthed by the ancient chaos before reality, formed by the world of demons. Aside from the weakest demons, the others do not care about what they have lost, which includes their body, name, soul or everything, as long as they keep persevering, they will be able to regenerate to continue battling, they also do not need to rest.
but the translations for the sources seem way too bizarrely specific for anyone without knowledge on the wiki to have written them (like "When he encounters an enemy or demon he deems unworthy of his service, he will proceed to wipe them out of existence. Every aspect, including their soul, will be completely reduced to nothingness"
Well unfortunately it will only scales to range and hax only for nowalso 9 dimensions is high end 1-C, not just Low 1-C
yeah some of us have a suspicion about the devs being battle boarders
Oh, sorry, I forgot. Again. Silly me.I'm not sure if it's a common misconception, but I am female.
Wait I thought Ultima and elizhaa have already agreed with 1C stuffGlass, Me and Sevil have yet to conclude.
Elizhaa and Ultima have yet to comment on Tony and mine 1C smurf hax proposal.
So no.
Seems good to me, then. If all of the sources were reliably translated, then I have no issue with the stuff in the OP.ah, i didn't know that before sorry, any way to answer your questions, we couldn't find a source to translate every statement we have including the EE one so we had to rely on OCR & machine translation( but we did get members to translate the most important statements. the soul statement did get translated by jason smith here and the one for demon regeneration here
Yeah it's funny how blatant DMC PoC's statements are. It's almost like a nightmare at this point.Seems good to me, then. If all of the sources were reliably translated, then I have no issue with the stuff in the OP.
We were talking about souls. Not the other dimensional stuff for cosmology. But yeah, while they did agree to cosmology stuff as well, Glass had concerns with it, and frankly, so did I and Tony, so we halted it until the game showed enough content.Wait I thought Ultima and elizhaa have already agreed with 1C stuff