Diavolo vs The Nameless One

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

That's only what Doppio does, because he had a Limited version of the power where he had to watch his hair. Diavolo using the ability can see it without having to spend time thinking. https://youtu.be/oj9Ju9AsLjA?t=29

He still needs to take one action before the Time Erase: "See"


Youre saying like that Diavolo can see Epitath and time erases at the same time with a single thought


Also, in that fight, the concept of Epitath wasnt full developed yet

 

[CinnabarManx421]

I still don't see how this lets him Erase Time First, they'd both go for Time powers immediately.

 

[TriforcePower1]

I mean, against GER, which was the only thing that Diavolo saw as a threat to his ability, he erased time first and used precognition only in erased time.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I mean, against GER, which was the only thing that Diavolo saw as a threat to his ability, he erased time first and used precognition only in erased time.

Yeah, because he knew that Gold Experience was turning into something really dangerous that he didnt even need to use Epitath to predict what would happen, since he was scaried af

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Caleb FRA.

 

[Jackythejack]

Caleb FRA

 

[TheArsenal1212]

Diavolo FRA

 

[Paul_Frank]

I don't wanna vote Diavolo since he's wanked but I want The Nameless One to have a profile even less

Diavolo fra

 

[Jackythejack]

at that point that's just voting out of spite.

 

[TheQuirkyBoy]

'''''You speak the truth '''''

 

[Jackythejack]

Do we even count spite posts? That sounds like poor tastes

 

[Paul_Frank]

I voted for reasons above though not out of spite ovo

 

[Jackythejack]

But it's alsonimplied some spite?

You kinda just voted against Caleb because you hated him more.

 

[TheQuirkyBoy]

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Woah. Angry Stand.

 

[HyperNepsy]

Spite votes don't countttt

 

[Paul_Frank]

nothing I say inside of slash text is supposed to be taken seriously, except for when it is

 

[Jackythejack]

this doesn't help your case good sir

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I don't know if it helps but Epitaph lets Diavolo see things he normally can't see, as when Nero was invisible and Doppio couldn't see him with it off but he could through Epitaph. https://youtu.be/6_6mTiwoaqY?t=75

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

What? Epitaph only shows him what is going to happen, that doesn't guarantee that it will show him that he'll erase before he stops.

He has 10 seconds to decide if he wants to erase time or not. If there is any point that he sees himself taking significant damage in the future he will erase it. That damage happening as the results of time stop Make no difference. Anything Diavolo observes in Epitaph is destined to happen unless he erases that time frame. Nameless will never be able to surprise him with a time stop or pull it off before him because Diavolo will always have 10 seconds to erase that time frame.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

@EmporerDoom

And he will always have 10 seconds to respond, which is more than enough time for someone with his reaction times. Nameless will never be able to pull off a time stop to surprise him because what Diavolo observes is destined to come true unless he erased it. Whether that damage is pulled off in time stop or normally, any significant amount of damage will simply be erased

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Anyway, I'm voting Diavolo for both my reasons and those above if that wasn't obvious

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Caleb FRA

 

[Sixo_Bullets]

Can my vote for Diavolo be counted pls.

 

[Eficiente]

Diavolo ftra, Caleb's arguments do kind of a bad job elaborating how he would successfully get around Diavolo's powers.

 

[JooCipher]

I voted for Diavolo as well

 

[Paul_Frank]

We've been in grace since lap's comment right

23 hours to go

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Caleb FRA

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Can someone give me a summary of how Diavolo can win here? I'm not convinced rn

Caleb FRA atm

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Diavolo FRA. Nothing in Caleb's arsenal helps against guaranteed future precog + Time Erase + Donut.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

How?

Caleb Has Time Paradox Immunity and resistance to time manipulation. I don't think time erase will do anything.

Caleb can read his mind, manipulate to plot to literally make himself win and he generally has many, many more ways to win

Plot Manipulation gg. If he wanted to he could just restart the plot if somehow he feels like he will lose + he literally figured out what a bad guy did from the simpliest of things being moved around

I honestly don't see how Caleb loses. At worst it's inconclusive because it could be argued down to a who strikes first.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Caleb's resistance to time manipulation is "(Can move in stopped time),". This does nothing to help him against time erasure.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Time Paraodx Immunity>>>

 

[DragonEmperor23]

It's not a paradox.

 

[TheArsenal1212]

He has resistance to time manipulation but nothing about time erasure, which is completely different to time stop and paradoxes

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Time Paradox Immunity means you're immune to changes to your past, basically, if someone travels back in time and kills you as a baby, it doesn't affect you at all, you can just keep going; this really doesn't have anything to do with King Crimson's ability.

 

[Eficiente]

Spectacular, more lies and lack of recognition for Diavolo's powers. If you guys are able to elaborate better than just that then please do so.

 

[Kirby71]

Right, resistance to time stop does not save you from outright time erase, neither It is a paradox, its very clear what It means, time erasure, like a video.

This is what Diavolo does: Like a video, Diavolo is like the editor, he sees 10 seconds further, then after the precog (Diavolo can erase without precog but that would be dumb, i mean, blind erase?) Diavolo can cut those 10 seconds of video, those 10 sec never happened, that is why no one remembers what happened, can't remember what never happened, only Diavolo, the editor knows what happened, and only he can take action during the time erase (he can reposition, per example, to avoid an attack and sneak behind to donut) and only the effects remains, it deletes cause but keeps the effect, imagine a Minecraft video, steve kills a Creeper and obtains gunpowder, we cut 10 seconds of the scene, if you saw the video, you would see first Steve going against the Creeper, and before he deals a blow to the Creeper, you already see Steve running to his house with gunpowder, the fight never happened, Steve apparently never killed the Creeper, It was erased the moment, but The effect remains, Steve has the gunpowder still.

And here is the trick, Diavolo is the only one Who can move no? He moves during the erased time to avoid the fatal fate he was gonna get, and sneak Up behind the nameless one and Donut after the erase, this bypasses time stop, as the moment that happened within those 0 sec never happened, and Diavolo repositioned himself on another spot.

 

[Eficiente]

He moves during the erased time to avoid the fatal fate he was gonna get,

He doesn't need to tho, he moves to position himself but anything would just pass through him. It's not just erased time, it's erased causality. This is also why Caleb will have no idea what just happened after Diavolo's time erase, like everyone else, then he gets donut'd.

The Caleb "generally has many, many more ways to win" is but a joke that ignores everything and elaborates nothing.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Open a YouTube video and press the right arrow on your keyboard, that's how King Crimson works; it's a skip button, he skips the things he doesn't want to happen so they won't affect him, it really isn't complicated at all.