DeltaRune Discussion Thread

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

I also hope you get to play as asriel. Since it was mentioned that him and kris are friends and he is alive in this game.

Him and Kris are brothers. And why would he be needed?

 

[Alexcar3000]

I'm calling it now. Pacifist will be the baddest ending ever.

I think the "only one ending" thing will probably carry over into the final product (as mentioned in Toby's Twitlonger), as that seems rather key to the ideas this game is going to convey.
It's just how you get there that's different. Kinda like how in chapter 1, the ending is always the same, but King's defeat is changed based on your actions towards the world's enemies.

What better way to do so by SMASHING in your face that your choices don't matter by killing everyone at the last moment when you thought being pacifist would grant you something ├▓wó

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Undertale

You are who you choose to be.

There is always a choice and violence is not inevitable.

"You" are secretly a character the whole time, and can bend the wills of the world's inhabitants.


Deltarune

"No one can choose who they are in this world."

All roads lead to the same place.

"You" are clearly there from the beginning, but are little more than a spectator who cannot choose where the world's inhabitants end up.


Knowing Toby, I fully expect this subversion of his own subversion to be a pretty big part of the game's overarching themes.

 

[DMB_1]

So he subversed an already "subversive" game into a... Normal and generic game?

 

[Read_this_post]

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[Crabwhale]

So he subversed an already "subversive" game into a... Normal and generic game?

X Files Theme Full (Illuminati) (Earrape)

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

That's not Asriel. Asriel hasn't been shown yet.

 

[Agnaa]

So he subversed an already "subversive" game into a... Normal and generic game?

It makes you think it's a subversive game but subverts that by just being a game about subversing your subversions.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

So he subversed an already "subversive" game into a... Normal and generic game?

To say this would be to ignore the meta narrative and how integral the very idea of something like Undertale the game is to anything Toby makes after it.

Toby making Undertale, a game all about choices and subverting an entire genre, and following it up with a game where a key theme is "your choices don't really matter because nobody actually chooses who they are" is not remotely equal to Toby creating a game that is generic because it lacks any of these themes and is simply a normal RPG about fighting some dudes and leveling up.

 

[Alexcar3000]

Asriel dialogues hurt. Hurt a lot.

 

[Read_this_post]

Super ascended sean I thought the goat guy at the end is asriel.

Alexcar3000 perhaps this thread will help with that pain

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Super ascended sean I thought the goat guy at the end is asriel.

Ralsei (obvious allusion to Asriel, his ******* name is even an anagram), not Asriel.

Asriel is Kris' brother and off at a uni, apparently. He's actually alive, this time.

 

[Read_this_post]

Ah ok. Then i wanna play as him lol.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I mean

You sorta can, even in chapter 1.

 

[Read_this_post]

I really need to play when ive got time :/

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Ralsei looks like Asriel wearing a little kid trenchcoat + glasses disguise.

 

[Alexcar3000]

Super ascended sean I thought the goat guy at the end is asriel.
Alexcar3000 perhaps this thread will help with that pain

I wish it was that simple.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Ralsei looks like Asriel wearing a little kid trenchcoat + glasses disguise.

It's implied he used magic or some crap to change how he looks.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

And a little bit more feminine than Asriel. Also has color in his portrait, which is heretical.

 

[Xantospoc]

I think it's a return to the form with how back in the Halloween Hack, no matter what you took, even the garrishly weird pressing B that drove you inside another section, Dr. Andronuts always died by your hands, even when you tried to save him.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Ralsei looks like Asriel wearing a little kid trenchcoat + glasses disguise.

He fits right in alongside the potara fusion of Chara and Frisk, angsty girl Barney, and not-Sans.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

And a little bit more feminine than Asriel. Also has color in his portrait, which is heretical.

Darkners have colored portraits.

Lightners do not.

The ironic heresy knows no bounds.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I want to see more of Cop Undyne.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

I mean it made sense back in UT, where everything was underground aka in the dark, but now the tables have turned hard.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I want to see more of Cop Undyne.

She's single now. Mew mew can finally get what she deserves.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Mew Mew is anime and ANIME ISN'T REEEEEAL

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

She's single, meaning Alphys literally lives in the trash again.

Although I do wonder what made her so reclusive this time around without the Amalgamate incident.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Alphys has been reduced to "my only friend is a cat that may not even exist" level.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

She's single, meaning Alphys literally lives in the trash again.

Although I do wonder what made her so reclusive this time around without the Amalgamate incident.

Her being an anti-social nerd, me thinks. She wasn't a social butterfly... ever, if mettatons diary is anything to go off

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

I honestly want to see a "Tony Stark" style Alphys.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Alphys has been reduced to "my only friend is a cat that may not even exist" level.

C'mon man, she's the cool teacher. Everyone definitly loves her.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Game was good 10/10 would binge play again

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

I mean there is a world of difference between being a nerd and living in the trash and having the pet equivalent of waifu as your only friend.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Well.

It was time to change my icon, anyway.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Azathoth joins the team.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

This thread is claimed by the Dark Fun Gang.

 

[Alexcar3000]

The Dark ?&!! Squad.

 

[Starter_Pack]

The Dark Lancer Fan Club.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

This thread is claimed by the Dark Fun Gang.

Yes.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Now all this thread needs is a Kris and a Susie until it has a s c e n d e d.