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DEATHBATTLE! Season 6! (CLOSED) Continue below:

What I want to see-

Kirby character (Goddamnit it's about time.)

MTG character (Unlikely but I can dream)

Composite Hum——

League of Legends character(?)

honestly something other than another ******* comic book character would be nice. I just want to see new franchises, yet we've done Marvel vs DC dozens of times already.
 
ZellTemplar55 said:
TitanCrusher101 said:
I mean it's pretty clear that Meta Knight wins, but Link will give him a decent fight. Cloud vs Meta Knight is probably the best matchup.
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Namor scales to hulk and others of this power (that's one of he things he's known for, smacking hulk around), but he's honestly in the same place as Aquaman,
both are very powerful but get hit with lowball, but Aquaman is the same way, he has fought solar system level beings, heck one time Despero I think stomped most of the JL them Aquaman just came in and demolished him,

regardless Deathbattle is known for being the worst Versus show ever, heck their researchers have come out and said "the research really doesn't matter, at the end they decide what happens"
heck Carolina vs. Meta most researchers said Meta would win and gave very good reasons, yet they just ignored it?
Heck sometimes they're told to "limit" research on a particular character,
you know Nightmare? You know that amazing soul manipulating he can do as well as reality warp (think even mind manipulation can't remember), and you know those storm feats, and even planet level (though more guessed/implied),
ok now take all those, and chuck them out the window, cause apparently at best city block+ and ghost slicing sword equals automatic win (which it's been debunked, Dragonslayer can't break Soul Edge),


so regardless of who wins, it's wrong in someway
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First, SA crew sucked in character research. Even SA crew themselves acknowledged they sucked more in research in the past than nowadays.
(they actually revisited Mario vs Sonic because they knew over the years
1. their research skills sucked in the past,
2. the Death Battle rules now are different from the past
3. Mario and Sonic have launched newer games that may upgrade their arsenal and therefore change their verdicts).
Their special research style (by doing everything by themselves without reference to other crossover versus debate site materials) despite within very short time constraints. They seldom rely on scaling and relied on few scalings. But they did have strong opinions on particular feats found - so strong they seldom cross-checked with other sources.

Time constraints are an issue and they were doing several lines of research like months ago before lining up into story writing, production and post-production process etc. Their reluctance to rely on non-original source also tightens the schedules yet they feel they want authenticity in their eyes despite being susceptible to miss a lot of feats which in contrary lowers the very authenticity they want to keep.

They technically did not have much influences from outside to make their own biases. They just effed up by themselves in some powers and abilities in different directions from time to time (which affect verdicts though), e.g. they never acknowledge Mach 6000+ combat speed for Marvel small town characters except Quicksilver but they actually accept no-limits Superma and Wonder Woma to the point Wonder Woman's sword can "slice everything" and Supes & Wondie have crazy direct feats in combat speed only surpassed by Dr Fate and Darkseid.
(The most recent two matches truly effed up in Death Battle are Carnage VS Lucy and Nightwing VS Daredevil.)

They seem to minimise their chances of screwing up researches in a few ways:
1. making matchups with clear margins in powers and abilities like Optimus Prime vs Gundam, Crash vs Spyro, Sora vs Pit, etc.
2&3. making DBX matches and Community Death Battle matches beforehand (Black Panther vs Batman, Ultron vs Sigma).
 
@Jason I'm not quite sure why Nightwing vs Daredevil is such a controversial one. I know DB aren't necessarily the best researchers, but from what they displayed and their logic, it made sense to me. I know the big controversy was the sonic gun feats with DD, but they acknowledged that in Cast and were like "Yeah, he took Klaw's sonic gun and activated his noice cancellers after the fact, but he still got messed up by it." Also, it doesn't seem crazy to think that Nightwing can figure out that DD was blind.
 
Sorvoe551 said:
@Jason I'm not quite sure why Nightwing vs Daredevil is such a controversial one. I know DB aren't necessarily the best researchers, but from what they displayed and their logic, it made sense to me. I know the big controversy was the sonic gun feats with DD, but they acknowledged that in Cast and were like "Yeah, he took Klaw's sonic gun and activated his noice cancellers after the fact, but he still got messed up by it." Also, it doesn't seem crazy to think that Nightwing can figure out that DD was blind.
Well basically Screwattack did not say things all wrong. To be frank, their verdict is what I personally would expect for Arkham Nightwing vs MCU Daredevil. This would be possibly one of DB's closest match-up's to date. Sure, based on their previous feats, we can tell that Nightwing seemed a little stronger and more acrobatic, and Daredevil seemed a little quicker to react. But these differences were extremely minimal, it's actually feasible that these two could pull off almost all the exact same feats - keyword being "almost". Without their base stats being almost equal, NW's arsenal cannot pull a big advantage against DD's blind powers.

But the original comics one dodged lightning and could perceive in nanoseconds. And SA never equalise speed for now (as they claimed) so they seem to heavily despise the idea for MHS+ Marvel small town characters. But they are totally fine with other small town or even street characters in other franchises.
 
To be fair, we're currently going over the fact that Small Town level Marvel is bullshit even by our own standards.

MHS+ Daredevil may also be an outlier of some proportion, but we haven't gotten to assessing that yet.
 
MrKingOfNegativity said:
To be fair, we're currently going over the fact that Small Town level Marvel is bullshit even by our own standards.

MHS+ Daredevil may also be an outlier of some proportion, but we haven't gotten to assessing that yet.
Like in which discord group? Sorry I can hardly find such discussion thread here. Instead I have seen upgrade threads recently for Avengers and X-Men characters.

And I believe few small town level Marvel street heroes or villains and even MHS+ combat speed are acceptable provided with sufficient proof. But scaling must be more rigid for characters that we attempt to scale to them.

Speaking of outliers, are feats of MHS Katana / Batman outliers? Esp DC Post-Crisis street characters.
 
MrKingOfNegativity said:
To be fair, we're currently going over the fact that Small Town level Marvel is bullshit even by our own standards.

MHS+ Daredevil may also be an outlier of some proportion, but we haven't gotten to assessing that yet.
When? This the first I'm hearing of this.
 
Ben already crushed your dreams ob Twitter long ago

He'd already had an established history of doing so by that point, so it didn't hurt as much as it could've.


Well technically they want Carnage vs Lucy over Carnage vs Alex Mercer because they want to bring more franchises into Death Battle - and as told in a deleted tweet plus the paid commentary version of Carnage Vs Lucy they confirmed Alex Mercer vs Cole MacGrath exists.

And Lucy vs Sarah Kerrigan exists - just Crona vs Sarah Kerriga exists too.
 
Yeah, a Low 2-C seems like appropriate overkill

Or wait was she 2-C with the fancy black jacket?

Either way
 
To think back, the idea of Carnage vs Alex Mercer may actually backfire as to how Screwattack is biased (or prejudiced whatever) against Marvel Street to Small Town characters Marvel would nerf Marvel to give DC characters a win unless the strength gap is crazy like Venom vs Bane. Even Carnage vs Lucy turns out to be among the recent saltier Death Battle episodes.

(Yeah Prototype and InFamous have their DC comics.)
 
Hellbeast1 said:
Yeah Bane should have fought Kingpin
Kingpi vs Pengui exists though. And Marvel fans need this and Red Hood vs Winter Soldier more since Nightwing vs Daredevil.

And how everyone thinks about Carmen Sandiego vs Waldo/Wally? Another Tracer vs Scout or Lara Croft vs Nathan Drake? Or another Scrooge McDuck vs Shovel Knight? (That gets votes approaching Raphael vs Red Hood, Thor vs Vegeta and Galactus vs Unicron)
 
Kingpi vs Pengui exists though. And Marvel fans need this and Red Hood vs Winter Soldier more since Nightwing vs Daredevil.

And how everyone thinks about Carmen Sandiego vs Waldo/Wally? Another Tracer vs Scout or Lara Croft vs Nathan Drake? Or another Scrooge McDuck vs Shovel Knight? (That gets votes approaching Raphael vs Red Hood, Thor vs Vegeta and Galactus vs Unicron)

Penguin gets Merced tho

Yeah quite clear cut win for Kingpin but the thematic close connections (being middle-aged rich tubby rivals of Batman vs Spider-Man or Nightwing vs Daredevil) make it up.

And guess what? I do not know the exact close connections of Percy Jackson vs Harry Potter and/or Steven Universe vs Star Butterfly but I find close connections between Percy Jackson and Steven Universe (will leave them to you to point out the exact close connections). Yet Percy vs Steven... is that a popular matchup indeed?
 
Jasonsith said:
Coming Community Death Battle:
Carmen Sandiego VS Waldo AKA Wally

https://twitter.com/ScrewAttack/status/1088156254772445184

... A Death Battle of science vs magic find-the-character puzzle game characters

Carmen sounds having good fighting experience and has stolen a lot, but Wally is actually lol haxxed imo.
I'm not sure what to think of this match.

For what i know neither of them are actual fighters or had any major offensive abilities, so it hard to think how they're going to kill or even harm each other.
 
TitanCrusher101 said:
DS > Thanos so Aquaman > Namor, case closed.
Well. Darkseid-> Thanos, but Black Panther -> Batman and Venom -> Bane, your logic doesnt have much sense.

(Unless you mean it for the Aquaman piercing Darkseid´s eye and Namor punching Thanos)
 
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