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Death Battle Season Seven Discussion Thread (6) (Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Yusuke is gonna **** Danny up if Danny isn't faster. That's all I know
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tbf sasuke being faster didn't help himFoxthefox1000 said:
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Please don't remind us of that train wreck of an episode please.
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Danny is FTL in base and Massively FTL with the Ecto-Skeleton scaling from Pariah Dark, supposedly.
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Wait Yusuke is Danny's opponent?.
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Sorry to point out the obvious but that is just an awful comparation, one that you have done many times I recall.The real cal howard said:
I actually believe that we may downgrade most if all of Marvel/DC's 4-Bs as there are barely any support for Solar System level characters in current comics.
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It was in reference to FanofRPGs actuallyCropfist said:
Still waiting for an argument that isn't "haha I said a big number"
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lulNewendigo said:
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It's cause people massively preferred hiei and didn't care. Also because of Seththeprogrammer saying that Sasuke didn't scale to Naruto.Tipper17 said:
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Sorry to point out the obvious but that is just an awful comparation, one that you have done many times I recall.
I actually believe that we may downgrade most if all of Marvel/DC's 4-Bs as there are barely any support for Solar System level characters in current comics.
It's not an awful comparison. Superman has more tier 2 feats than Goku has brain cells. But because people are still pissy because Kal beat him and have been making sure that comic characters are as weak as they can make them. I say that a lot because it's true. And idc how accusatory that sounds to the people in general. It's how I feel.
Also keep in mind this isn't directed to you specifically.
I actually believe that we may downgrade most if all of Marvel/DC's 4-Bs as there are barely any support for Solar System level characters in current comics.
It's not an awful comparison. Superman has more tier 2 feats than Goku has brain cells. But because people are still pissy because Kal beat him and have been making sure that comic characters are as weak as they can make them. I say that a lot because it's true. And idc how accusatory that sounds to the people in general. It's how I feel.
Also keep in mind this isn't directed to you specifically.
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Sorry to point out the obvious but that is just an awful comparation, one that you have done many times I recall.
I actually believe that we may downgrade most if all of Marvel/DC's 4-Bs as there are barely any support for Solar System level characters in current comics.
It's not an awful comparison. Superman has more tier 2 feats than Goku has brain cells. But because people are still pissy because Kal beat him and have been making sure that comic characters are as weak as they can make them. I say that a lot because it's true. And idc how accusatory that sounds to the people in general. It's how I feel.
Also keep in mind this isn't directed to you specifically.
Said thing is I definitely feel that's the case
I actually believe that we may downgrade most if all of Marvel/DC's 4-Bs as there are barely any support for Solar System level characters in current comics.
It's not an awful comparison. Superman has more tier 2 feats than Goku has brain cells. But because people are still pissy because Kal beat him and have been making sure that comic characters are as weak as they can make them. I say that a lot because it's true. And idc how accusatory that sounds to the people in general. It's how I feel.
Also keep in mind this isn't directed to you specifically.
Said thing is I definitely feel that's the case
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you're right, i'm sorryNewendigo said:
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to be fair,anime and manga are written by one writer at a time
it is hard to properly scale comic book characters,when in one comic they tank universal attack,and in the next one (by another author) they are damaged by USSR Nuke,or some stupid thing like that
it is hard to properly scale comic book characters,when in one comic they tank universal attack,and in the next one (by another author) they are damaged by USSR Nuke,or some stupid thing like that
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I dunno if this is unpopular or not, but Ness VS. Frisk does not sound like it'll be a fun or entertaining DB just by the nature of both's powers.
I honestly think Silver, maybe Chrono if we push it, and mayyyybe Shulk (cause that's even been a debate among the DB Crew at least back in the day) are likely to be Ness's opponents unless they find some other psychic kid who became one with the universe to ward off an abstract eldritch abomination.
I honestly think Silver, maybe Chrono if we push it, and mayyyybe Shulk (cause that's even been a debate among the DB Crew at least back in the day) are likely to be Ness's opponents unless they find some other psychic kid who became one with the universe to ward off an abstract eldritch abomination.
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^ It's funny because I also thought of that after posting it.
But I think Tetsuo is reserved for Magneto. If Tetsuo is used against Ness I'd feel pretty bad for just how badly the little shit wrecks his shit when he could've just fougt Mags for an easy win.though this can also apply to Silver as well
But I think Tetsuo is reserved for Magneto. If Tetsuo is used against Ness I'd feel pretty bad for just how badly the little shit wrecks his shit when he could've just fougt Mags for an easy win.
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I'd rather have Magneto vs Accelerator personally out of any of Magneto's matchups.Foxthefox1000 said:
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All absolutely true.
In a lot of ways, matching up manga vs comicbooks can be a bit unfair at times. Manga/Anime characters usually only have one writer and progress as their story goes on. They may increase in power or get new abilities, but it's dependent on the nature of the verse their in. Sometimes that means they have only a handful of abilities, others, they end up with a bunch of abilities. However, their stories eventually end and the character levels out in terms of powers.
Comicbook characters just go on and on, usually. They gain new powers, skills and abilities as the Plot demands. Then a new writer takes over and the character gets more stuff. Rinse and repeat for decades at a time. I mean, just look at Post-Crisis Superman. His page is the best showing of this. Look at all the applications and resistances that we've tracked for him and him alone. That is the result of having multiple writers and technically, he's still going due to how Rebirth happened.
Then add Screwattack's bad handling of continuity. Goku vs Superman 1 is effectively Manga Goku with access to SS4 vs. a Composite Superman made out of Pre-Cisis, Post-Crisis and All-Star and probably more. They took feats from mutiple versions of Superman and even outright messed one the feats they claimed. Shoot, I was salty about that when the episode came out, not who won.
In a lot of ways, matching up manga vs comicbooks can be a bit unfair at times. Manga/Anime characters usually only have one writer and progress as their story goes on. They may increase in power or get new abilities, but it's dependent on the nature of the verse their in. Sometimes that means they have only a handful of abilities, others, they end up with a bunch of abilities. However, their stories eventually end and the character levels out in terms of powers.
Comicbook characters just go on and on, usually. They gain new powers, skills and abilities as the Plot demands. Then a new writer takes over and the character gets more stuff. Rinse and repeat for decades at a time. I mean, just look at Post-Crisis Superman. His page is the best showing of this. Look at all the applications and resistances that we've tracked for him and him alone. That is the result of having multiple writers and technically, he's still going due to how Rebirth happened.
Then add Screwattack's bad handling of continuity. Goku vs Superman 1 is effectively Manga Goku with access to SS4 vs. a Composite Superman made out of Pre-Cisis, Post-Crisis and All-Star and probably more. They took feats from mutiple versions of Superman and even outright messed one the feats they claimed. Shoot, I was salty about that when the episode came out, not who won.
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But seriously I've wanted Ness and Silver in for a while now and at this point I can see both being put against each other. Outside of this wiki I'm not sure how the RT view the stupid hax that insta wins or stalemates most verses so I think the animation potential for Ness VS. Silver is better than their other matches.
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Ness's hax still gets tested by Blazblue.Foxthefox1000 said:
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Personally, Silver is probably fit more to fight Trunks or Grovyle (PMD Explorers).Foxthefox1000 said:
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Silver the Hedgehog? What connections does he have with Ness?
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The only connection needed.Maverick Zero X said:
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All absolutely true.
In a lot of ways, matching up manga vs comicbooks can be a bit unfair at times. Manga/Anime characters usually only have one writer and progress as their story goes on. They may increase in power or get new abilities, but it's dependent on the nature of the verse their in. Sometimes that means they have only a handful of abilities, others, they end up with a bunch of abilities. However, their stories eventually end and the character levels out in terms of powers.
Comicbook characters just go on and on, usually. They gain new powers, skills and abilities as the Plot demands. Then a new writer takes over and the character gets more stuff. Rinse and repeat for decades at a time. I mean, just look at Post-Crisis Superman. His page is the best showing of this. Look at all the applications and resistances that we've tracked for him and him alone. That is the result of having multiple writers and technically, he's still going due to how Rebirth happened.
Then add Screwattack's bad handling of continuity. Goku vs Superman 1 is effectively Manga Goku with access to SS4 vs. a Composite Superman made out of Pre-Cisis, Post-Crisis and All-Star and probably more. They took feats from mutiple versions of Superman and even outright messed one the feats they claimed. Shoot, I was salty about that when the episode came out, not who won.
the literally stated in that video Pre-crisis Superman was far beyond goku so they stuck to his post crisis version plus they composite Post crisis with all star etc other than that I agree
In a lot of ways, matching up manga vs comicbooks can be a bit unfair at times. Manga/Anime characters usually only have one writer and progress as their story goes on. They may increase in power or get new abilities, but it's dependent on the nature of the verse their in. Sometimes that means they have only a handful of abilities, others, they end up with a bunch of abilities. However, their stories eventually end and the character levels out in terms of powers.
Comicbook characters just go on and on, usually. They gain new powers, skills and abilities as the Plot demands. Then a new writer takes over and the character gets more stuff. Rinse and repeat for decades at a time. I mean, just look at Post-Crisis Superman. His page is the best showing of this. Look at all the applications and resistances that we've tracked for him and him alone. That is the result of having multiple writers and technically, he's still going due to how Rebirth happened.
Then add Screwattack's bad handling of continuity. Goku vs Superman 1 is effectively Manga Goku with access to SS4 vs. a Composite Superman made out of Pre-Cisis, Post-Crisis and All-Star and probably more. They took feats from mutiple versions of Superman and even outright messed one the feats they claimed. Shoot, I was salty about that when the episode came out, not who won.
the literally stated in that video Pre-crisis Superman was far beyond goku so they stuck to his post crisis version plus they composite Post crisis with all star etc other than that I agree
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Silver is not fighting Grovyle and I'm almost certain of that.
As for Trunks, I can't deny it, but the animation potential is absolute crap unless they give Silver the Wisps and other equipment. It's the reason people havw problems with Beerus VS. Arceus as a DB. One fights CQC plus has ranged shit while the other can't fight CQC and can literally stand there the whole time if it wanted as well as has hax that doesn't require any movement and showing that off in animation would be tough
As for Trunks, I can't deny it, but the animation potential is absolute crap unless they give Silver the Wisps and other equipment. It's the reason people havw problems with Beerus VS. Arceus as a DB. One fights CQC plus has ranged shit while the other can't fight CQC and can literally stand there the whole time if it wanted as well as has hax that doesn't require any movement and showing that off in animation would be tough
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Then I rememebered wrong. It's been literally years since I watched it and NEVER revisited since.Tipper17 said:
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They are phyisic, that's literaly itMaverick Zero X said:
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Trunks and Silver literally also have a single broad connection. Hell, most if not all of his MUs have single broad connections
Difference is that Ness and Silver are psychic kids who time travel in order to save their universes from an evil "god" or god-like being that required positive thoughts and prayers and their friends to beat. Giygas and Mephiles also manipulated the minds of others (albeit through differing means), and they're both generally not CQC fighters.
Difference is that Ness and Silver are psychic kids who time travel in order to save their universes from an evil "god" or god-like being that required positive thoughts and prayers and their friends to beat. Giygas and Mephiles also manipulated the minds of others (albeit through differing means), and they're both generally not CQC fighters.
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Yeah, I think thematically all his matches are trash lol
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Is Yates doing the Soundtrack for the upcoming DB?
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Sounded more like Therewolf, honestly. And Yates just did Days of Booster Past.Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
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I never claimed it was the most thematic fight in existence, but of the options I genuinely like Ness the most and feel the animation potential is mostly the reason for it. Him against Trunks if not given Wisps or other pieces of equipment (and let's be honest DB wouldn't) would just be him slamming Trunks against the ground or chucking him somewhere via TK the whole time and launching shit at Trunks the whole time as well. When Trunks inevitably goes for CQC they'll have to make up Silver suddenly being a god at H2H and Melee combat if they want it to be entertaining, otherwise it's just what I said before but rinse and repeat until one kills the other (Silver would win here based on 2-C high-end stats and speed while DB and literally everywhere else would have Trunks win)
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