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It’s only like two or three people but they keep going in circles either arguing for higher d stuff or basically saying about anything Discord has “MMM but I don’t think that’s what the writer intended-“
The writers have made blatant jokes about Discord messing with Marvel/DC and even made a "No More Mutants" joke, along with making him casually time travel, but the writers clearly don't intend Discord to be some mega powerhouse in-universe.

Did the writers for Gravity Falls not intend to make Bill a walking Anti-Feat machine?
 
It's funny because the more connections a matchup has the more often the MU sucks
Not that more connections means worse matchups, but more time spent on drilling into a list of close connections may lead to lesser time spent on investigating other factors like matching stat levels and haxes, matching fighting styles, music, sound effects, etc.

Didn't you argue that Shinji is better than Magneto for Tetsuo because of connections?
Instant karma like hit by the boomerang the thrower just throws.
 
MUs with subpar or bad connections I still wanna see


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(Not comic Terra ’cause Toph deserves an actual fighting chance)
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MUs with subpar or bad connections I still wanna see


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(Not comic Terra ’cause Toph deserves an actual fighting chance)
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I’m sorry you’ll have to take another Twilight L if this ever happened.


Nah Flash had enough moments kn comics where him being a jobber at times doesn't stick out like a bad thumb compered to others (Surfer,MMH And of course
I disagree heavily I think Flash is one of the biggest jobbers in comics. He’d easily be top 5 among all his iterations. It also doesn’t help that a lot of his jobbs are just, really ******* horrible (ie, paper, banana peel, the entire family getting folded by Catwoman, dying to bullets, lol)
 
Should consistencies be looked at how much? Practically most series will struggle at this, say planet+ level character probably cant be busting planets in every punch. Factoring importance of feats in meaningful story scenarios should be important... but I gotta feeling realistically in most scenarios everything would be way lower.
 
Practically most series will struggle at this, say planet+ level character probably cant be busting planets in every punch. Factoring importance of feats in meaningful story scenarios should be important...
literally crying over here in neptunia bruh, the amount of people i see saying they aren't universal despite the fact that we have, at the very least, 3-4 things on it + a low multiversal feat, is sad
 
Depends on how high you push the 2hu and MLP tiers. If both are Multi and have their highest speed interpretations, EoS Twilight can potentially pull out a W.
I don’t think Twilight can survive the layered soulhaxx ngl, that’s kind of an unfortunate insta-gg if she doesn’t. I think the reasonable ends for both characters are 2B & Infinite and 2C & MFTL+ right?
 
I don’t think Twilight can survive the layered soulhaxx ngl, that’s kind of an unfortunate insta-gg if she doesn’t. I think the reasonable ends for both characters are 2B & Infinite and 2C & MFTL+ right?
Elements of Harmony exist within the mane 6 themselves and can be harnessed at will now, so they can push Twilight as far as 2A, assuming you allow her their power. Plus, if you really want to push it, with the Elements tagging Discord effortlessly, they can be MFTL+, or straight up immeasurable.

Another thing is, the EoH have autoshields that have no-sold Discord levels of power, and similar or potentially stronger power sources like Rainbow Power (something she can also call upon) have autoshields that no-sold attacks from someone roughly 4x as powerful as Discord. So actually hitting Twilight might prove challenging.

Actually, does Patchy resist sealing and having her magic forcibly taken away? If not, she might be in trouble since that's the go-to with those powerups. But that's assuming one doesn't interpret most of the Touhou cast as higher-D, otherwise Patchy negs Purplesmart.
 
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Elements of Harmony exist within the mane 6 themselves and can be harnessed at will now, so they can push Twilight as far as 2A, assuming you allow her their power. Plus, if you really want to push it, with the Elements tagging Discord effortlessly, they can be MFTL+, or straight up immeasurable.

Another thing is, the EoH have autoshields that have no-sold Discord levels of power, and similar or potentially stronger power sources like Rainbow Power (something she can also call upon) have autoshields that no-sold attacks from someone roughly 4x as powerful as Discord. So actually hitting Twilight might prove challenging.
I’ve got no idea how standard the EoH are, no idea how fair they are to give.

Depending on how you stat Touhou it ranges from 2B + Infinite to 1C/H1C + Infinite travel speed w/ Immeasurable reactions (Immeasurable reactions are only for some characters tho)

I don’t think autoshields would help either, since iirc Spirit Manip can still work through barriers, just to a lesser degree. There’s also conceptual power modification, her own magical barriers, and I’m not sure if Twilight could bypass Patchy’s mid-godly regen. I just think no matter what way you push this Patchy would likely outstat and has everything she’d need to beat out Twilight, especially since all of Twilight’s advantages seem to depend on having EoH?
 
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