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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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WeeklyBattles said:
Just composite Shaggy, problem solved
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Even with compositing Shaggy wouldn't really be anywhere near Luigi, most of the nonsense Shaggy get into wouldn't really increase his stats and if anything it would just give him more hax (And before anyone say it, no him having a yellow lantern ring wouldn't scale him to main line DC characters) and would still probably get one tapped by Luigi.
Also I just want to point out that the phrase composite Shaggy is kinda deceiving since most Scooby Doo content is canon to itself.
 
Tots_Real said:
Also I just want to point out that the phrase composite Shaggy is kinda deceiving since most Scooby Doo content is canon to itself.
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Ah okay, Sorry, I'm not too sure what would be considered canon to him because I'm not fully into the Scooby-Doo lore
Also means Mystery gang canonically had an existential crisis on whether they'd go to Hell or not
 
Mariogoods said:
LeBron James may be a joke character, but he has appeared in MultiVersus. Maybe VS Battles Wiki can have a profile of him appeared in MultiVersus if MultiVersus is allowed.
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There is no scaling that I know of. That also means you'd need to make a Ted Lasso profile when comes to Multiversus.

Also, what happened to the Haruhi Suzumiya profiles? I thought Nagato Yuki vs Monika would be a nice match.
 
TMaakkonen said:
Which is worse, getting a correct winner but giving absolutely awful reasoning, or getting wrong winner but reasoning isnt that bad?
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I am torn into two, and can fall into either case. And to be fair, for bias free research and debate, if a reasoning is done good enough, the theoretical correct verdict in determining a winner should be easily obtained. Say, Flash should defeat Quicksilver because Flash is way stronger and way faster and way more haxxed. If Flash wins because he is more handsome, then it is an awful reasoning, but if we say Quicksilver wins because he is a better fighter (which is incorrect because he is slower, weaker and less haxxed), then the information presented is already incorrect and therefore the verdict is doomed to be awful at best and misleading at worst.

Sometimes it can be controversial in determining which episode goes to which case.

For example, say Wally West defeats Archie Sonic because he has a more reliable access to his extradimensional powers and can just steal the power source from Archie Sonic. People can argue that Archie Sonic should have won because he has meh magic, reality warping and wish powers - from the point of view by Archie Sonic supporters, Wally West winning is wrong in verdict and with poor reasoning.

Or do you mean Ben vs Hal OR Carnage vs Lucy or Dio vs Alucard (to somebody)?

Saying EOS long horns Lucy wins because base Carnage is Mach 3 is a bad verdict, but EOS long horns Lucy defeats base Carnage because of better range, AOE and effective counters with bigger raw power is fair.

Meanwhile, Dio is way stronger and faster than Alucard but (to somebody) Alucard's Schrödinger powers is just making him nigh unbeatable. Therefore the verdict "can go either way".

I think if a case falls within "getting wrong winner but reasoning isnt that bad", the matchup itself should be very close or very debatable to either way.
 
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greymerlion2 said:
Ah, so Ben vs Hal or Madara vs Aizen?
Wrong winner's worse to me, but I'm honestly pretty indifferent to the analysis.
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TMaakkonen said:
Which is worse, getting a correct winner but giving absolutely awful reasoning, or getting wrong winner but reasoning isnt that bad?
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neither are better
in regards to the last one that relys on the MU at hand
like if its a close MU yeah i can get
but if it ain't nah no excuse there
 
I'm mostly wondering on how many older S1-S4 actually have at least decent verdicts lol

Say Flash, they mostly got good description of him but also "only" put him at 10 million x FTL which is very low compared to nowadays, but is that enough to make Flash vs QS verdict not good?
 
TMaakkonen said:
I'm mostly wondering on how many older S1-S4 actually have at least decent verdicts lol

Say Flash, they mostly got good description of him but also "only" put him at 10 million x FTL which is very low compared to nowadays, but is that enough to make Flash vs QS verdict not good?
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Man, I forgot that Flash vs Quicksilver had one of the rawest moments in the series with Barry's Speed Force speech.
 
TMaakkonen said:
Oh, it was just that, 6 billion x mph

Oh nooooo thats waaay lower lmao

But otherwise the verdict is still fine, and they still insisted Flash was great deal faster, so are moments like that enough to ruin a verdict?
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I'd say it's important to consider that DB mostly caters to the general audience, with a handful of bones being thrown to the versus community here and there. Most everyone who watches Flash vs Quicksilver is gonna expect Flash to be as fast as hell, 6 billion mph gets that point across just as well as 60 billion or 600 billion. Point is, I think as long as the stats generally match people's expectations and support the verdict, it should be fine. There's other examples too, Storm being moon level gets the point of her being far stronger than Korra across just as well as her being universe level.
 
greymerlion2 said:
I'd say it's important to consider that DB mostly caters to the general audience, with a handful of bones being thrown to the versus community here and there. Most everyone who watches Flash vs Quicksilver is gonna expect Flash to be as fast as hell, 6 billion mph gets that point across just as well as 60 billion or 600 billion. Point is, I think as long as the stats generally match people's expectations and support the verdict, it should be fine. There's other examples too, Storm being moon level gets the point of her being far stronger than Korra across just as well as her being universe level.
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Yeah but then there is stuff like DS's, .EXE's & Thor's newer speed feats.

No way does casual audience understand novemdecillion lol
 
TMaakkonen said:
Yeah but then there is stuff like DS's, .EXE's & Thor's newer speed feats.

No way does casual audience understand novemdecillion lol
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I mean, they don't have to understand it to know it sounds like a really big number. Like I said, probably just one of the bones they decide to toss to the versus community. Something to show that they do actually crunch the numbers.
 
Liam might notice Wesker is being relevant with the 2nd chapter of resident evil they had there, plus RE4 remake next year i believe

Oh yah, netflix also has a series but heard its shitty

He was aware its unfair as a match, but the hype from him might get them views, Tekken also has the new anime going to be out soon making people familiar with Kazuya as well

Sucks that these two have big stuff going along being a requested normie match
 
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