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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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I can picture Mew2 snagging a win if Frieza plays with his food and tries to torture Mew2 instead of just one-shotting
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The term omniverse level is not used because we have a more franchise neutral term to use: the outerverse level. Especially when dimension scaling is used in our site.
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Xiao (Genshin Impact)
- Male lance/spear user
- Superhuman humanoid non-human being worshiped as a deity in a region
- One of a five-member team (the Five Yakshas), the most elite among such team (Yakshas) that was directly tasked to defend a region (Liyue) through the slaughter of all manner of abominations formed by the lingering wrath of ancient gods in a past great war (the Archon War).
- Due to his countless years of slaughter, regardless of his doing so to protect the region (Liyue), he is plagued by bad karma that eats away at his flesh down to his soul, causing him endless excruciating pain. Still, he persists in his duties, all the same, eventually becoming one of the strongest of their kind.
- Wind/air manipulation character
- Wearer of a mask which increases his power at the cost of his vitality
Do not take my words as bible.
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First one I unironically thought of was Mayneth (worship as one of multiple moralities of gods), but not only is it a shitstomp of the highest calibre by our standards, the elements don't quite add up either. Nephilim (Xenosaga) is another one that comes to mind, but she has similar problems (+ the fact that she only has like one feat to her name).
Depending on whoever this 'Nimuae' (I probably butchered that spelling) ends up being in XC3, I'll have to come back to this.
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In a simulated Death Battle, whether the combatant will toy their opponent is totally independent of whether the combatant or the opponent is stronger.
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The ain’t giving BWG any hax. Dude’s a flying brick. Mewtwo’d be the one having hax left and right while BWG has stats and spin.
They also er…don’t buy complex multi for BWG. For other Digimon, sure. Omnimon, Zeed, Lucemon, would 100% get that level. But BWG ain’t one of em. BWG’s win chances are still high because he probably still gets multi and quadrillions but I’m both uncertain on the latter and Mewtwo hits the former.
TLDR, BWG would win because of pulling a Goku and brute forcing, and not funni Digimon physiology.
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Arceus has like zero opponents and if people want a Pokegod rep it’s probably gonna be Giratina.
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I can always book Xeno opponents for both. Giratina (inc. Cyrus if need be) vacillates between Yuriev / Abel's Ark and... well, that's about it, and knowing XC3's obsession with flutes, it's unlikely Arceus will lack for MUs by the end of July.
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If Giratina does get in, his best chances are either getting rocked by Shuma-Gorath or beating Akechi under Volo’s command. Unfortunately idk those other guys
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I've heard of Volo vs Adachi because of the whole 'meme face' thing, but Akechi? What's the relations here?
Also I can just picture Volo vs Adachi premise. Adachi tries to buy cabbages from Volo, realising soon after he got scammed, and that's what starts the fight.
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So I'm gonna massively lowball Digimon, so bear that in mind, but for Adventure context the bare minimum is Dark Masters shape shifting the world.
Considering that in DB Sonic shows how moving just continents is a big deal, so what range would shape shifting entire planet be?
Mewtwo's fairest calc is the Meteor/Planet/Rayquaza scaling from Deoxys, but I do wonder how would that Digi feat be calced if it was lowballed to planet shifting.
Considering that in DB Sonic shows how moving just continents is a big deal, so what range would shape shifting entire planet be?
Mewtwo's fairest calc is the Meteor/Planet/Rayquaza scaling from Deoxys, but I do wonder how would that Digi feat be calced if it was lowballed to planet shifting.
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Assuming that reshaping the world is being done by physically moving and rearranging the planet itself and not something like reality warping, how high it can get calced depends on the speed everything is being moved, if no timeframe can be found then the highest the feat could go would probably be baseline planet level
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Mewtwo vs BWG is “if Mewtwo is put within the ballpark of BWG in speed he wins.” That’s pretty much it.
Traitors in a monster catching game. Adachi is just gonna murder Kira.
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...That it, huh?
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From what I see, (for some big downplay) we can say the Dark Masters are raising small "spiral mountains" on all Earth surface. Now, math the GPE of raising landmass of a mountain with Earth surface base and a "mountain" or even "hill" height. Assume rock mass, or even, soil mass.
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I feel Kira could have a chance. IIRC, they put Persona 4 guys at like 7-C and they could put Killer Queen at High 7-C via scaling it to Crazy Diamond and CD to Star Platinum.
I don't remember what speed they used for persona tbh.
I don't remember what speed they used for persona tbh.
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Yeah. Simple but a goodie. And I’d really like to hear “Come, Loki!” alongside “Giratina, strike him down!”
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Nah they buy uni to low multi Persona cast. Speed is the hard thing, as they’re anywhere from mach 300 to quintillions c. Yes. It’s that much of a range.
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Oh **** NVM then lol. Kira gonna die
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On that note, I think 7-C P4 could work as it's physicality distinction (while still keeping Tier 1 keys elsewhere). I think you know where I'm going with this.
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What about Beelzebub or Yukari
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What about hax? What's the consensus on that?
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yeah Yoshikage Kira is Adachi’s most thematic and requested matchups, especially considering the similarities between P4 and DiU
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I’d assume the consensus are just resistances an resistance negation
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Assuming they think Killer Queen scales to the strongest stands, given manga shows even Crazy Diamond, which even part 4 Star Platinum is told to be better then all in the part, can handle Killer Queen in h2h
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Funni JRPG haxes galore. But nothing that like, Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest wouldn’t have.
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As long as Adachi isn't immune to transmutation and "Time, huh?", Kira has a slim chance. Kira is also more intelligent for what its worth. Also Invisible attacks with Stray Cat and Sheer Heart Atttack.
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There’s a chance Adachi could still overwhelm Kira with his stuff before he gets BTD off, aswell as BTD kinda being not that combat applicable.
also, somewhat side tangent: you think shadows would be factored in this fight? Because if I remember correctly, in the anime, Adachi can somewhat control shadows
also, somewhat side tangent: you think shadows would be factored in this fight? Because if I remember correctly, in the anime, Adachi can somewhat control shadows
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Okay, but who is hotter Kira or Adachi
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Ameno-Sagiri definitely could (even without the Anime). Fog was what made the shadows restless in 4, and Ameno-Sagiri is the thing that was ultimately outputting it (even if 4 is choc full of continuity errors so bizarre, only Saga III could spare it's blushes).
Worst-case scenario, it becomes a DioCard animation element, like the zombies.
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This is going be a good episode
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Thor's preview was practically a feat fest, whereas Vegeta's? Mainly just talking about his character and shit, because we all know that direct, great feats in DB, outside the first arc of Super, Fused Zamasu and Vegeta's first appearance in the anime, he ain't got nothing thanks to Toriyama and Toyotaro laziness. Both for feats, and good writing.
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Pretty much Vegeta was background, Abilities, shit he did in the Manga and anime
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I kinda want a moment in the battle where Vegeta disarms Mjölnir from Thor and calls him out for relying on a weapon only for Thor to go HAME completely barefist and overwhelming Vegeta to the point the saiyan prince begins to release the hammer isn't actually the true source of the thunderer's strength.
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Vegeta’s feats are pretty limited so I can see why they didn’t spitball all of them right off the bat (correct me if I’m wrong but his best direct feats outside of scaling are destroying a planet and moon with a finger in Z filler and destroying the Earth-sized Hyperbolic Time Chamber). Unless they’re planning to hype up Vegeta nuking random rock formations the rest of his trailer is gonna be “massively upscales from BoG Goku’s universal clash” and his new Super abilities.
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The Majority of Broly's analysis was like that.
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Either the shadows or sacrificing Stray Cat is a convenient way to get BtD off.
Also, Adachi does control shadows in P4A Ultimax.
Judge for yourself. Kira is the standard hot but Adachi has that crazy energy that makes ladies swoon (sadly only in real life, not his own series).
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I thought up something cool that could happen, if they decide to have shadow Kira show up they could have Kira pull a fast one on Adachi and use the shadow as a catalyst for Bites the Dust. Yeah I know it’s unlikely a shadow for Kira would exist, but it could be a cool moment.
counter argument: Kira is David Bowie
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