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It’s hated but for purely petty reasons. No matter who wins, one of my boys die.Ah! Is this your hated MU? (where you dislike it for valid reasons but know and accept it'll likely happen in the future).
Reverse Flash Vs Goku BlackAlready happened(@The_Smashor)
Future Trunks Vs Silver
(Me).
I believe there are others too.
He did in the EU/Legends not sure in "canon" tho.
Lucina is in a poor position. Every MU she has except for one as she gets her shit kicked in by Zelda, Saber, Erza, and all the time traveler matchups (Trunks, Grovyle, Silver, etc.) Only matchup she wins is Kitana and that sucks.Speaking of Fire Emblem actually it's pretty crazy with how much the DB researchers have liked Fire Emblem and talked about the series in the past that we've had zero representation of FE in DB.
I think Lucina is one of the most likely, but recently with Three Houses, the FE episode is probably gonna be Dimitri VS Guts as that's easily the biggest MU.
Lucina is in a poor position. Every MU she has except for one as she gets her shit kicked in by Zelda, Saber, Erza, and all the time traveler matchups (Trunks, Grovyle, Silver, etc.) Only matchup she wins is Kitana and that sucks.
I also love how all the house leaders have super good matchups, with Dimitri having Guts and Edelgard having Lelouch, and then poor Claude is stuck with goddamn Decidueye.
I think Marth, Roy or Ike might be likely to show up first due to their iconic status and history thanks to Smash Bros.Speaking of Fire Emblem actually it's pretty crazy with how much the DB researchers have liked Fire Emblem and talked about the series in the past that we've had zero representation of FE in DB.
I think Lucina is one of the most likely, but recently with Three Houses, the FE episode is probably gonna be Dimitri VS Guts as that's easily the biggest MU.
Genuinely interested about this btwI believe there was a feat from some random dude from this obscure but Canon thing where the bot performed a feat that would give transformers one of the highest speed ratings, but people were quick to say it's probably an outlier
First off, this thumbnail's pretty good, I like the saturation effect on it. But some of these connections are... off?Recently found out about this MU, sounded kinda cool to me, so i made a thumbnail for it.
Ragna the Bloodedge vs Koishi Komeiji (Blazblue vs Touhou)
Connections: Both were forgotten by everyone (Koishi closed her third eye, which resulted into her being forgotten before the story began and Ragna being forgotten at the very end). One regrets this action that they only did for themselves (Koishi) while the other felt it was a necessary thing they had to do to save everyone (Ragna). However, one person (Satori and Rachel) held onto the faint memory of them and misses them dearly. Both had a demon inside of their bodies that everyone was scared of (Third eye and Black beast) so they locked them deep inside of them, Koishi locked it away from the world while the Ragna used it to his advantage. Both also have a sibling (Satori Komeji and Jin Kisaragi) who is more successful than them but most of the time, they just go off and do their own thing. However, they still really love their family. Both have pretty deceiving looks (Koishi looks like a cute anime girl and is extremely childish but has a secret dark side while Ragna looks like a total "edgelord" and is Mature but has a secret nice side). Both also have a theme with hope (Koishi wanted to Gain the Emotion of Hope while Ragna Embodied that Hope for others). Both steal things but they really don't care. Both were enemies to the entire world but, later on in life, gained more meaningful realntionships with others. Both also use bladed weapons in combat (Koishi uses her knife and Ragna uses his sword, Aramasa).
I ******* love Sly vs Lupin so much dude, that's one of my favorite versus MUs, I'd be devastated if they waste Sly on Rouge, this is coming from a huge Sonic fan.Sly vs Lupin is such a based matchup and it makes me sad that they'd likely never fight each other on DB if they ever get in, Sly is unfortunately more likely to be put up against Rouge than he is Lupin
Yeah it's not great when everyone and their mother already knows who'd win, who would ever think Rouge would win that fight when Sly can just jump and press the circle button to instantly win
The more time goes on the more I really vibe with this MU. A lot of animation potential with cool fast paced sword clashing, interesting ability trades (Zero's whole, varies arsenal against MK's pure speed and skill, and his handful of abilities like geokinesis and energy beams, and raw potential moments. Possible banter but it could be a silent fight just as well. This could be one of the best fights this season imo. Even if it's a little stompy I also appreciate a 3rd Kirby W.
The reasoning here would probably be more that Bowser has never been seen using the machines himself, its always Jr. I can't really think of a single time he's utilized a robot himself that isn't like his Clown Kart or something. And in all honesty even if you did give Bowser access to all his machines, it wouldn't change the matchup in any major way like giving Eggman all his machines does. Also the dynamic of a single opponent tearing through someone's entire arsenal bit by bit overtime is a very interesting dynamic we've never had before, and it keeping Eggman on the ropes of "oh you won't be able to handle THIS" would lead to fun banter/animation potential. It could also lead to an interesting fake out/unexpected ending with Eggman winning, with him being able to turn the situation around on Bowser's head with the final robot he pulls out finally being able to put the king under (I think the Phantom Ruby or any of Eggman's major uni-robots would be able to effectively take him out. Or you could just have the Death Egg Cannon put him down, either or). Could be a very fun fight generally.Eggman has the privilege of being a legacy and iconic MU, and his character interaction potential with Bowser can be good, as both can be pretty goofy. The only issue is that the actual thematic connections, as with most Mario VS Sonic MUs, are lacking, and their abilities and how they fight are extremely counterintuitive to each other. There's also the issue of like, if Eggman gets like all of his machines why can't Bowser? Most people see this MU as Bowser just tearing his way through all of Eggman's arsenal by himself, which could be epic but it doesn't give Eggman much to show off and portrays him as constantly on the ropes, then again, I suppose with Sonic he always is.
I don't really agree with what this site's stats are for Mario so I tend to not use them, but DB DEFINITELY doesn't use them so I'm not taking them into account here. I think the highest they'd bring Bowser is probably Galaxy level via Grand Star scaling.This site has different ratings than what DB would buy so I think they'd have Bowser winning honestly (speed + hax and abilities that counter Eggman's as well as using Uni stats for Mario characters even if it's not in the episodes themselves) Either way it's a fun MU I'm just not sure if it will happen.
Have they utilized Mario Party in analysis before? I feel like that's something that could be seen as questionable to use in a researching sense.The thing is though. The last discussion had (When I was on the Discord) was that Bowser can simply de-mech Eggman. TK or warp the Ruby or any other macguffin away. It's within his capabilities and he messed with characters in this way consistently in Mario Party. So they'd probably go with that.
Of course, maybe the verdict has changed. They did have Eggman winning before. Wouldn't doubt it's the type of MU where people flip-flop
Egg Salamander, Time Eater, and Egg Wizard are his strongest self made robots iirc. The Death Egg is also pretty powerful with its 4A cannon and all.Eggman vs Bowser Rely's heavily on do you give Eggman his utter best stuff like time Eater and Egg Salamander
Well John Constantine vs Raidou Kuzunoha the XIV is such a big MU (well among the character versus debater communities) no one wants a worse alternativeI wonder how Constantine does against wanda. He should get a fight against dormammu
Zero vs Meta Knight (@The_real_cal_howard)Ah! Is this your hated MU? (where you dislike it for valid reasons but know and accept it'll likely happen in the future).
Reverse Flash Vs Goku BlackAlready happened(@The_Smashor)
Future Trunks Vs Silver
(Me).
I believe there are others too.
Unlikely.Do you think they'll ever do Nostalgia Critic Vs AVGN?
Does this mean a Mario vs Sonic re-re-examination?Reasonable lowballs feel like Eggman win mostly due to Death Egg & Final Egg Blaster being more reasonable thing to be given. The MU gets weird once you hand out stuff like Star Rod or Time Eater.
Technically atm Eggman is stronger than Bowser in DB due to Emerald Feat > Wario Feat, but frankly I feel like Bowser would have a good shot if they do new black hole feats. Also feeling they'd use some MFTL feats to make them close or still have Bowser to be faster.
Eggman creating his machines makes a better argument to given him most of his stuff, tho while this allows Phantom Ruby replicas, DB would prolly still not allow Eggman's spinoff mechs be universal lol
Given the #ChangeTheChannel and Channel Awesome Implosion controversy, doubtful. Though even without that, their rivalry sorta died down and neither of them had much of a popularity they once had, though they're still around and still getting views to this day. Also unsure if DB will use Internet personas.Do you think they'll ever do Nostalgia Critic Vs AVGN?
God I hope not.Does this mean a Mario vs Sonic re-re-examination?
Lord no for re-examination.
DB changes shit a lot. Venom went from Mach 2 to 2000 and lets not forget EVEN FASTER THOR. It doesnt mean all eps should get re-examinations.
I dont really want too many re-examinations either, at this point mostly just MC vs Doomguy.
So longing to watch Doomguy bump from slightly weaker than Master Chief tier to stomping a lot of multiverse buster tier...MC VS Doomguy isn't even needed really. Like, Eternal has made it to where even the casual audience have to reach to even give Chief a chance.
Part of me just wants it so they'd have to explain hypertime before they do it for a DC episode.Unlikely.
And if they do, god knows what is included.
I want no returns for anybody but shadow the hedgehogNow that we have more lore for Garland (Final Fantasy I) from Stranger of Paradise, would y'all support a Ganondorf return vs him?