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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Haven't seen or read Berserk (highly unfortunate, I know) but I'm so glad that there's a Berserk v. FE matchup that isn't just Ike vs Guts, from what I've heard the MU of Guts vs Dimitri is honestly really good
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Also can I just say aside from Bowser's next potential matches I'm not a fan of Mario MUs.
Luigi VS Pac is fine, but it barely has connections beyond "gaming ghostbusters" which admittedly is at least a pretty unique connection with Luigi compared to his other opponents. And it does get Pac-Man in without having to go against utterly stupid MUs, though I think Yoshi is a decent alternative because in some games he CAN eat ghosts which would be three connections with Pac-Man instead of two. Plus, if it's composite Pack his ******* absurd transformations would be another thing he and Yoshi have in common but enough about that. This is probably the best of the bunch for sure.
But then we have like, Rosalina VS Palutena. I can kinda get it but like, also no? Palutena is clearly a much different character. I think the only reason this actually gained popularity is because of the (false) notion that Rosalina is "a Goddess" like Palutena and the Smash Canon Power Level disputes.
Then there's Jr. VS Tron which just has horrible animation potential. I get that it's thematic but just think about what they fight would be. Limiting Jr. to just his Clown Car and having the battle just be mechs fighting doesn't represent all of what BJ is capable of and is something we could have in other matches. This match is more like "Here's what Tron Bonne can do!" than it is a fair showing of both. And she still dies regardless.
And then Waluigi which is just entirely meme matches. Not really necessary. The only actual fun idea for a meme Waluigi match is Robbie Rotten but he also has other MUs.
And of course the potentiality of other runbacks that aren't needed.
Luigi VS Pac is fine, but it barely has connections beyond "gaming ghostbusters" which admittedly is at least a pretty unique connection with Luigi compared to his other opponents. And it does get Pac-Man in without having to go against utterly stupid MUs, though I think Yoshi is a decent alternative because in some games he CAN eat ghosts which would be three connections with Pac-Man instead of two. Plus, if it's composite Pack his ******* absurd transformations would be another thing he and Yoshi have in common but enough about that. This is probably the best of the bunch for sure.
But then we have like, Rosalina VS Palutena. I can kinda get it but like, also no? Palutena is clearly a much different character. I think the only reason this actually gained popularity is because of the (false) notion that Rosalina is "a Goddess" like Palutena and the Smash Canon Power Level disputes.
Then there's Jr. VS Tron which just has horrible animation potential. I get that it's thematic but just think about what they fight would be. Limiting Jr. to just his Clown Car and having the battle just be mechs fighting doesn't represent all of what BJ is capable of and is something we could have in other matches. This match is more like "Here's what Tron Bonne can do!" than it is a fair showing of both. And she still dies regardless.
And then Waluigi which is just entirely meme matches. Not really necessary. The only actual fun idea for a meme Waluigi match is Robbie Rotten but he also has other MUs.
And of course the potentiality of other runbacks that aren't needed.
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kinda wish superboy prime was popular enough to show up on the show
shame he probably isnt
shame he probably isnt
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Actually, Waluigi has another pretty fun MU with Star Man from Mega Man, connections here
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Which is dumb as shit if you look at it with any common sense
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Popular enough for the crew I think
maybe the could have him in a DBC to test the waters
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It is better as a MU, but Wario vs Dedede was such a good episode that i think they did the right thing by doing this one instead of Dedede vs Bowser, still one of the best episodes on DB
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im fine with sentry tbh
marquis is far more thematic and nem sold me on its fight dynamic
i just find marquis really boring
marquis is far more thematic and nem sold me on its fight dynamic
i just find marquis really boring
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Apparently it's because both are more well-known to be greedy anti-villains or antiheroes or something not exactly villains but started off as such, and have since become rivals to the main hero. Also, both are rotund and they share similar hax abilities, like, VERY similar. Plus, in other incarnations they own companies.
Bowser just has the "big greedy and goofy kings" theme with Dedede which is admittedly pretty charming. He's more villain than Dedede ever was also. So I can see why they did it, but also Bowser VS Dedede was just way more iconic and hype. It's kind of a legacy match in a way. Also, the character interaction potential with Bowz and Triple D would've been way better.
So there's pros and cons to both, really. Though I prefer Bowser over Wario.
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The true bummer is feeding Bowser to Ganon in one of the shittier DBs. Like, at least Wario VS DDD was a good episode.
Bowser VS Ganon is still badly researched, barely showed off both characters and was boring as a fight. There wasn't even good interactions save for the tennis match.
One of the reasons why I support a reanalysis like with Mario VS Sonic because that match actually deserves it, and Fury Bowser Vs Calamity Ganon is an easy battle seller
Bowser VS Ganon is still badly researched, barely showed off both characters and was boring as a fight. There wasn't even good interactions save for the tennis match.
One of the reasons why I support a reanalysis like with Mario VS Sonic because that match actually deserves it, and Fury Bowser Vs Calamity Ganon is an easy battle seller
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Bowser definitely needs a run back.
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Honestly, maybe, I just think Sentry has better opponents and I like Marquis
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The only thing is that there's two really big MUs Bowser has for runbacks, and both involve characters already in previous episodes.
Ganon has the privilege of being a shitty episode that deserves a reanalysis since they both got new forms that's easy clickbait, plus someone on the team actually has expressed interest in redoing the fight. Their powers are also pretty similar, as shocking as that is to casuals. They'd play off each other well in terms of abilities and how they fight. BUT Ganon and Bowser have like, NO chemistry at all so character interactions would not be great. Also, Ganon was already used twice now and had his best match.
Eggman has the privilege of being a legacy and iconic MU, and his character interaction potential with Bowser can be good, as both can be pretty goofy. The only issue is that the actual thematic connections, as with most Mario VS Sonic MUs, are lacking, and their abilities and how they fight are extremely counterintuitive to each other. There's also the issue of like, if Eggman gets like all of his machines why can't Bowser? Most people see this MU as Bowser just tearing his way through all of Eggman's arsenal by himself, which could be epic but it doesn't give Eggman much to show off and portrays him as constantly on the ropes, then again, I suppose with Sonic he always is.
Ganon has the privilege of being a shitty episode that deserves a reanalysis since they both got new forms that's easy clickbait, plus someone on the team actually has expressed interest in redoing the fight. Their powers are also pretty similar, as shocking as that is to casuals. They'd play off each other well in terms of abilities and how they fight. BUT Ganon and Bowser have like, NO chemistry at all so character interactions would not be great. Also, Ganon was already used twice now and had his best match.
Eggman has the privilege of being a legacy and iconic MU, and his character interaction potential with Bowser can be good, as both can be pretty goofy. The only issue is that the actual thematic connections, as with most Mario VS Sonic MUs, are lacking, and their abilities and how they fight are extremely counterintuitive to each other. There's also the issue of like, if Eggman gets like all of his machines why can't Bowser? Most people see this MU as Bowser just tearing his way through all of Eggman's arsenal by himself, which could be epic but it doesn't give Eggman much to show off and portrays him as constantly on the ropes, then again, I suppose with Sonic he always is.
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They had Zatanna win.
Fate is from the same series as Zatanna. They'd probably say they're comparable (I don't personally know enough to say if they are) and then the episode is still "correct"
Fate is from the same series as Zatanna. They'd probably say they're comparable (I don't personally know enough to say if they are) and then the episode is still "correct"
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strange is better than wanda
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They said Strange is weaker than Wanda but beat her because of her mental instability.
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this was a solar system level strange
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please if they scale strange right he'd have immeasurable speed and outer ap easily
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Eh since they came to the conclusion Fate was much faster (decillions of times the speed of light) I don’t think Strange would be fast enough to get the helmet off by their logic back then. Plus they said Fate has countermeasures to that and can use some Magic without the helmet.
Granted if they analyzed the MU nowadays they’d probably both have equal speed
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Hey, are there any thematic matchups for Barry and Wally outside of rivalries?
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Okay, I take the L. Kenshiro stomps like he should. But damn, I wish Jotaro had better matchups.
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Who
And he's too irrelevant you'll be lucky to have folks know who he is beyond generic cosmic baddy entity #384939594
Also Wario vs King DDD was the best for both frankly Wario options were ass and Bowser vs DDD is meh honestly
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Nah not many especially if you want to look for good ones
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You know I think you should stop seeing your opinion as fact and dismissing other's wants. It's pretty toxic.
Grima is from Fire Emblem, btw.
Grima is from Fire Emblem, btw.
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Plz point to me stating my opinions as facts
Go ahead I'm waiting
I get wat he wants I'm simply saying it's highly unlikely due to the Characters relevancy
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What would be the bad ones?
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For Wally mostly anything that wasn't Archie Sonic
Barry doesn't have alot of good ones
Hulk works as Speed vs Strength and maybe Surfer but even then those are meh
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Relevancy - Awakening being the game that revived the franchise, having appeared as a baby in Echoes along with new lore, is also one of the most popular final bosses in the entire series with 4 versions in Heroes
Also, Awakening just turned 10 years old on 4/20, so it's back in the public eye for a bit
Of course, I don't actually expect nor want it to be done, I just think the MU is pretty decent (Grima vs Zamasu/Goku Black is also a good one)
Most likely candidate for an FE match anyways would be Byleth
Also, Awakening just turned 10 years old on 4/20, so it's back in the public eye for a bit
Of course, I don't actually expect nor want it to be done, I just think the MU is pretty decent (Grima vs Zamasu/Goku Black is also a good one)
Most likely candidate for an FE match anyways would be Byleth
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Actually its Dimitri since they're looking for a Guts mu
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I'd say Byleth, while not guaranteed, is generally more likely in the event they want to avoid "favoritism" towards any one House Leader
But yeah, Guts vs Dimitri is good and is probably one of Guts' most popular MUs now
But yeah, Guts vs Dimitri is good and is probably one of Guts' most popular MUs now
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Was referring to Cyber not yours
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Which is a downplayed strange, like by alot.
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Game mechanics brain says Sly Cooper wins.
Everyone else (include game lore brain) says Rouge wins so hard it is not funny.
So Wanda < Strange < Nelson/Nabu < Zee right?
Knew it.
Dunno. Most of the time Flash characters are pit against other "time manipulation characters" and "speed manipulation characters" - you know, they are "the Scarlet Speedsters" and "fastest men alive".
There is surprisingly Barry Allen / Wally West vs Peter Parker. And somehow a video exists. And we know what happens.
How good is Flash... Gordon vs D- Buck Rogers?
I do not blame them for hating Eren Yeager for Eren later being written from a freedom fighter to a far-left to far-right swinging Hitler / Stalin reincarnated - and Hollywood being "obliged" to follow Democratic Party orders.
But oh man Eren does die to most of the popular choices - against Ken Kaneki and against Yuichiro Hyakuya. He definitely gets mopped by Ultraman (Ultra Series).
Likely Marth, Chrom, Lucina or Byleth - oh also Dimitri (and the Three Houses Battle Royale).
Somehow a spite matchup of Claude vs Hiccup exists.
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which they didn't even intend to given they mention him tanking the big bang in the black bar
just s5 research failure
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