Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[RiloKileyFan]

I can't judge the VA, I don't watch dubs, so not sure if that how they should sound like. The lack of fight set up does work here me thinks because it's straight to the point: Jonathan wants to harm Nezuko and Tanjiro protects her. I had similiar concerns with Madara vs Aizen and that turned out fine, so I think I should remain positive that everything else the song, choreography, hand-drawn elements makes up for the off putting models

 

[Tipper17]

The preview fine VA for both fit only real issue is Jonathan sprite and such

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Just watched the preview........why does Jonathan's model move and look like that?

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Everything else was awesome though

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Everything looked good, Jonathan's model was ehhhhhhhhh

Overall I'm pretty excited for the full fight, if it's anything like the preview and the analyses are good as well, it'll probably be a 9/10 for me.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

In the screenshot from youtube his sprite didnt look bad, that horrible its in motion?

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

In the screenshot from youtube his sprite didnt look bad, that horrible its in motion?

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Ok i can see why the fuss

 

[Tipper17]

They should've just used these

from a user
mugen community doesn't look highly on ppl stealing their work, and there might be weird legalities to asking for permission (edited)

or something idk

 

[CBslayeR]

from a user
mugen community doesn't look highly on ppl stealing their work, and there might be weird legalities to asking for permission (edited)

or something idk

they've used mugen sprites without permission a billion times before so there shouldn't be an issue, just credit them and its probably fine enough

 

[CBslayeR]

On a related note Death Battle needs to credit sprite artists better if they're not made by themselves

 

[Tipper17]

they've used mugen sprites without permission a billion times before so there shouldn't be an issue, just credit them and its probably fine enough

idk then

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I can see the issue now, though the sprite isn't the worst one they've ever used.

 

[Jasonsith]

from a user
mugen community doesn't look highly on ppl stealing their work, and there might be weird legalities to asking for permission (edited)

or something idk

they've used mugen sprites without permission a billion times before so there shouldn't be an issue, just credit them and its probably fine enough

On a related note Death Battle needs to credit sprite artists better if they're not made by themselves

(Technically we all see the sprites used in the episode before the sneak peek so no spoiler tabs)

IMO one reason they used an inferior sprite over a better one is to match the theme of the other opponent whose sprite just has another style.
And proper credits and even permissions are separate issues.

Spoiler: sneak peek

Typical "Jonathan mistook Nezuko as one of Dio's minions" case.

Separate topic: Jonathan did lose his sword early, just to regain it at the end of the sneak peek (Not even a minute)

 

[Tipper17]

For my pros and cons
Cons:

Jonathan Sprite needs more work
Bit of Jank

Pros:

Characterization for both are good
Water style was pretty cool
Both VA are good
The fist and sword play were good
Music sounds good

 

[RiloKileyFan]

it just doesn't look good when some rando can make better sprites than a studio/company, tho yes, I suppose there is legit reasons for using inferior sprites for your animation.

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

Everything about the preview looked really off and jank to me so far, not sure if I'm being overly analytical here though.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

it just doesn't look good when some rando can make better sprites than a studio/company, tho yes, I suppose there is legit reasons for using inferior sprites for your animation.

Big companies for gaming/tv/animation/etc: right?

 

[Joycap]

Imma put the sprites aside for a sec and say I didn't expect Jonathan to be British. Good shit lol

 

[Tipper17]

 

[0ホルスファルコン将軍0]

I know that there is no good scenario for Jonathan and Tanjiro to fight to the death that wouldn't be completely out of character or require a long set-up, but it's a bit disheartening to see Jonathan be so out for blood like a ******* meathead. The wonky sprites don't help matters either.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

I know that there is no good scenario for Jonathan and Tanjiro to fight to the death that wouldn't be completely out of character or require a long set-up, but it's a bit disheartening to see Jonathan be so out for blood like a ******* meathead. The wonky sprites don't help matters either.

I mean it is pretty clear what they’re going for, he thinks Nezuko is one of Dio’s minions, Tanjiro doesn’t try to explain what she really is and just goes to defend her, making Jonathan think the boy is under control and needs to be saved. I imagine by the end Jonathan will realize he has no way to “save” Tanjiro and will be forced to kill him.

 

[Jasonsith]

I mean it is pretty clear what they’re going for, he thinks Nezuko is one of Dio’s minions, Tanjiro doesn’t try to explain what she really is and just goes to defend her, making Jonathan think the boy is under control and needs to be saved. I imagine by the end Jonathan will realize he has no way to “save” Tanjiro and will be forced to kill him.

Yeah like when Tanjiro uses his mark form and "extra-dimensional" power... Jonathan will be "convinced" Tanjiro "is a bigger threat" than Dio could be.

Oh will Death Battle give Tanjiro universe level by creating a pocket dimension of a universe? He is not the only one who "can do so". (So much wank)

 

[RiloKileyFan]

so they are totally factoring in the whole "the water tanjiro summons is real" into the fight itself going by Jojo's comments when Tanjiro uses it....a lot of the YT comments are just "actually the water is just a visual effect".

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

That seems like a silly mistake to make but not as silly as when they gave 18 Absorption powers

 

[RiloKileyFan]

i think we are going to get that issue again if they don't fix it.....especially if they use that reasoning why tanjiro lost.

 

[Sero]

That seems like a silly mistake to make but not as silly as when they gave 18 Absorption powers

Actually it is debatable if it's real or not, a few months after the word of good thing, a databook or something said something that eluded to that they are in fact real

 

[RiloKileyFan]

 

[Sero]

damn.

 

[RiloKileyFan]

that was not a jab at you Sero. i actually just posted that because of the YT comments "well actually..." reminded me of that meme

 

[Tipper17]

The whole effects thing is example of WOG being flip flopping overall on the thing

 

[RiloKileyFan]

so they're using this Tanjiro right? Most of you said Tanjiro looks fine in the preview, but he looks like an alien to me.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

so they're using this Tanjiro right? Most of you said Tanjiro looks fine in the preview, but he looks like an alien to me.

Tf is that?

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Imma put the sprites aside for a sec and say I didn't expect Jonathan to be British. Good shit lol

That’s how he sounds in the dub

 

[Mariogoods]

The preview is not so bad. And I see that Tanjiro manages to give JoJo some trouble in sword clash, but JoJo hasn't used any Hamon yet and Tanjiro's advantage is likely to show that he has better training.

 

[RiloKileyFan]

Tf is that?

tanjiro right before he has his final fight with muzan IIRC

 

[Tipper17]

so they're using this Tanjiro right? Most of you said Tanjiro looks fine in the preview, but he looks like an alien to me.

tanjiro right before he has his final fight with muzan IIRC

Tanjiro was infested by Muzan blood that was killing him so that's why he looked like that

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

Speaking of Mortal Kombat... Anyone interested in bringing Raiden back to fight Raiden Shogun (Genshin Impact)?

is one of the most requested genshi mu, along with xiao vs whisper wolf, in terms of popularity.

 

[The_Smashor]

So, not so long ago I shat on JoyCap's favorite Gunvolt matchup against Zeke because it's connections were on a base level and primarily based on Gunvolt's connection with Joule compared to a Driver and Blade in Xenoblade, which technically no longer exists by the end of Gunvolt 2. And while I still stand by that matchup being slightly above mid at best for GV compared to his other matchups (Around at the same level as Star Force Mega Man and maybe Ky from Guilty Gear), I do have another matchups between a Xenoblade character and an Azure Striker that IMO is the best for the latter at least.

Spoiler: Major Xenoblade spoilers, unless you've played Smash Ultimate or Project X Zone 2

"This Faceless Blade"
Fiora vs Blade
Xenoblade Chronicles vs Azure Striker Gunvolt​

• Both characters are sisters to a major supporting protagonist in their respective games (Dunban and Kohaku)​
• Both fought against a force attempting to wipe out humanity (The Mechon and the Sumeragi Institute of Human Evolution) in an effort that buys time for their allies to ultimately survive, seemingly at the cost of their own lives.​
• However, instead of dying, they're transformed into the group that they were fighting against (Fiora becoming part Mechon and Blade becoming an Adept), and were brainwashed to become high-ranking soldiers in these armies.​
• They also inherit something from a long-dead character (Meyneth's soul and Gunvolt's Septima)​
• Both are later directly controlled by a main antagonist (Egil and Demerzel), but manage to break out of this control and regain their old memories, eventually using the powers they gained to help the heroes stop them once and for all.​

I also think it could be amazing as a fight, even if it's a pretty blatant stomp in Fiora's favor. Not only is it a swordfight, which IMO have amazing potential to begin with by default, but there's real potential for the fight to progress in an interesting way. It could start with both in their default states, before having both of them overridden, only for the fight to become so intense that both manage to break out of their control (Shown by both breaking out of their masks), and beginning to fight not for their mission, but so that they can see their loved ones again.

 

[Soulgizmo]

I need to know what the fight theme sounds like