Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[The_Smashor]

The official DC speed ranking: (or the closest to one)

Cheetah surprisingly high.

That's the old version.

 

[Tipper17]

Carol returned for Marvel vs Marvel and a lot of people dislike Venom vs Crona so tbh DB is eager to return comic's characters.

Venom was popular pick alongside Carnage for Crona so ain't there fault there
and 18 wasn't Carol best

Even without Thought-Years he still stomps via Skyfather Scaling, it's just Thought Years are another nail in the coffin for Vegeetz,

Doesn't Help that Marvel universes are also technically Micro-cosms like DB, with the whole 10+ realms in one universe

fair enough

 

[Tipper17]

 

[TMaakkonen]

Honestly kinda dont want Thor vs Vegeta because we will just get the "DBZ fans will be so salty lmao" again.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

They might as well give Vegeta SSj Rosé at this point...

 

[SomaKing13]

Didn’t know that, yeah Vegeta should definitely die lol

Yeah lmfao, apparently there's been a quite a few references that A) Yggdrassil connects to far more universes than just the 10 realms, and B) The 10 realms are in every universe, not adjacent like the Dark Dimension.

 

[SomaKing13]

As much as it is a huge stomp, it's one really badass fight that I want

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Inb4 they give Thor skyfather scaling instead of herald scaling .

 

[TMaakkonen]

If we used consistency Vegeta should probably win.

 

[Tipper17]

Honestly kinda dont want Thor vs Vegeta because we will just get the "DBZ fans will be so salty lmao" again.

If the fight is well done and give both there props nobody gonna be bitching outside a fringe few

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Potential to have a banging ost to

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Honestly kinda dont want Thor vs Vegeta because we will just get the "DBZ fans will be so salty lmao" again.

I mean a vocal minority of DB fans did (somehow) get incredibly salty about RF vs Black after its release, one of them even making an account and coming to this thread just complain about it.

If we used consistency Vegeta should probably win.

Probably not since current Thor apparently has an Odin-tier amp.

 

[TMaakkonen]

If the fight is well done and give both there props nobody gonna be bitching outside a fringe few

Oh hell no, ignoring that it could have great fight potential, if that gets made we WILL get "DBZ fans will be so salty lmao". It was loud with Hulk, it was loud with RF, it will be loud with Thor.

 

[Malomtek]

I mean a vocal minority of DB fans did (somehow) get incredibly salty about RF vs Black after its release, one of them even making an account and coming to this thread just complain about it.

Have you ever heard of the legendary tale of "thousands of times faster than an attosecond" Dragon Ball Super?

 

[TMaakkonen]

Probably not since current Thor apparently has an Odin-tier amp.

I meant true consistency : p

 

[The_Smashor]

An odin tier amp that probably will be excluded similar to King in Black because DB knows that it's not gonna last.

 

[TMaakkonen]

Oh and Hulk apparently lost his Green Doors already so pfffffffffffft

Hell, we actually accepted "Batgod" earlier. DC has conditioned bad writing that hard its accepted.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

An odin tier amp that probably will be excluded similar to King in Black because DB knows that it's not gonna last.

They used Immortal Hulk and Thor’s amp is lasting longer than that.

 

[Tipper17]

Potential to have a banging ost to

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

I mean, Venom (Sleeper now )and Eddie are still hearld tier in the comics lol

 

[Tipper17]

DC has conditioned bad writing that hard its accepted.

truer words spoken

 

[Thehonestone]

Good bait

It literally is, though. Space Marines are weaklings compared to shit like the OG Mobile Infantry or Destiny Guardians.

 

[Tipper17]

I mean, Venom (Sleeper now )and Eddie are still hearld tier in the comics lol

more like skyfather now given he's the king in black now

 

[TMaakkonen]

I mean, Venom (Sleeper now )and Eddie are still hearld tier in the comics lol

Ehh the Venom is bonded with Dylan and only smashing helicopters.

I really dont expect cosmic Eddie to last say, 5 years from now.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Hell, we actually accepted "Batgod" earlier. DC has conditioned bad writing that hard its accepted.

Batman just had his Anti-Cheetah gauntlets on its fine

 

[Teezar]

Base Thor is what I was referring to, his base for the last several years now has been Skyfather level, and again even if they strictly take it all the way down to Savage Hulk at Universal+, if they incorporate Thought-Years for their Volume scaling ( Something they are clearly doing now via Reverse Flash vs. Goku Black,) Thought-Years put a single marvel verse at 106 Quadrillion x Universal, and if we took the whole 2x universal via Hyperion scaling, that's already 212 Quadrillion x Universal, and then he has his 10x multiplier via Warrior's Madness...

Explain this thought years cause marvel universe claps at 2 trillion light years in death battle.

 

[Thehonestone]

They're really gonna just do FTL/Tons of TNT as a comparison, aren't they? Why does DB like to throw around FTL speeds so much?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

They're really gonna just do FTL/Tons of TNT as a comparison, aren't they? Why does DB like to throw around FTL speeds so much?

I think Aizen vs Madara is too nuanced of a MU for that routine

 

[TMaakkonen]

Like, what the actual shit are comics where a ******* slightly above human smacks a ******* 5th fastest DC character who scales to planet puller.

This is worse than Tree level Goku.

If we put any true criticism to comics they'd be a joke. Which I guess they are considering their sales downwards spiral.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

 

[Tipper17]

They're really gonna just do FTL/Tons of TNT as a comparison, aren't they? Why does DB like to throw around FTL speeds so much?

Storm was only lightspeed in her fight

 

[Stefano4444]

Doesn't Help that Marvel universes are also technically Micro-cosms like DB, with the whole 10+ realms in one universe

You are talking about things like the Ten Realms, Darkforce Dimension or the Negative Zone?

Aren't those places considered to be fully distinct to the main marvel universe similar to U6 and U7? Instead of be something like the Afterlife and Living World?

 

[Tots_Real]

Still saying Orion Vs Thor is a better fight

 

[SomaKing13]

Explain this thought years cause marvel universe claps at 2 trillion light years in death battle.

https://character-stats-and-profile...o_X/Marvel_Universe:_1_Trillion_Thought-years There are multiple references to the Marvel Universe being measured in Thought-years, which are millions times larger than Light-Years, and even the 2 trillion Light-Years statement (which in-canon is a statement from 65 million years before the modern age, and the marvel universe is expanding every second just like DC, so even that statement is inaccurate, and it's not like it was ever stated as a hard size limit either as the statement comes from a bubble talking about a planet a trillion lightyears away, not the edge of the universe)

 

[SomaKing13]

You are talking about things like the Ten Realms, Darkforce Dimension or the Negative Zone?

Aren't those places considered to be fully distinct to the main marvel universe similar to U6 and U7? Instead of be something like the Afterlife and Living World?

The Dark Dimension and Negative are separate but we have direct statements from Odin referring to "Ten realms in THIS universe" and the ten realms still being included in contexts regarding Earth 616 as a whole.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Like, what the actual shit are comics where a ******* slightly above human smacks a ******* 5th fastest DC character who scales to planet puller.

This is worse than Tree level Goku.

If we put any true criticism to comics they'd be a joke. Which I guess they are considering their sales downwards spiral.

Fr though Batman just has impenetrable plot armor in storylines where he has to fight alongside the Justice League. When starring in his own comics he can get his shit rocked by Street level villains (“Street level” meaning Peak Human by DC standards, not 9-C).

 

[SomaKing13]

Still saying Orion Vs Thor is a better fight

Honestly I'd take Orion vs Thor or Vegeta vs Thor, both are super thematic bad ass fights, I would not say no to either, some Orion representation though would be really appreciated ( Though I feel like if they'd have Orion fight someone it'd be Ikaris)

 

[Tipper17]

Still saying Orion Vs Thor is a better fight

Maybe but no one care about Orion these days not even DC

 

[SomaKing13]

Maybe but no one care about Orion these days not even DC

Literally if your a new god and your name isn't Darkseid, you don't matter to DC ( Poor Forever People)

 

[TMaakkonen]

I mean I guess Orion is a half step above rest. At least people know him. Probably Black Racer too. But aside from DS's minion, how many New Gods do you know?