DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[Gyra1524]

 

[TMaakkonen]

Ngl, it's pretty bold of the site to have an accuracy thread

Its based around VSW stats so if you dont agree with those then yeah. I probably dont even agree with all of it and I monitor it lmao

 

[Dust_Collector]

Boundless Nappa scaling

oh **** I forgot about that

 

[Fireld]

I've come to make an announcement, Eggman is a certified fraud. He couldn't even kill a single goomba permanently in that entire fight. That's right, all powers, no wins, no kills. He's not even World 1-1 level!

He was basically like Kaido in Wano, gotch'ya

 

[Tapkmiz]

The IDW comics are so wierd in regards to the scale, like I play the games and buy that base characters could beat saiyan saga characters no issue, then I read the comics and as much as I love them, I can't imagine the likes of Tangle hanging with the old man version of King Piccolo

I think it's just a part of things not being written with battle boarding in mind, I've gotten that check before haha.

 

[TMaakkonen]

I think there's one that you can count as vshit here and that'd be pokemon. I think the current legendary ratings are for the most part correct and I think that in many cases scaling trainers to legendaries despite the discrepancies is correct. There's just some much inconsistent shit in pokemon that if you don't give it leeway then its literally impossible to scale. You effectively scale by chosing the lesser of two evils.

Where do you scale trainers and only trainers, not their Mons?

 

[Dust_Collector]

God the amount of Thwomp >> Infinite memes on twitter is great

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

I think Goku vs Superman 3 is still my favorite episode, but Bowser vs Eggman is a close second.

 

[Arceus0x]

I think it's just a part of things not being written with battle boarding in mind, I've gotten that check before haha.

that's the thing, we (I hope most of us at least) are fine with it. The issue is that Sega said its canon and now we're including it into the main canon scaling which throws a rock into both scalings

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

God I can't recall the last DB episode that had me watching the animation several times in a row like this

Bro I keep replaying the scene where Neo Metal goes Super and just manhandles Fury Bowser, knocks Kamek out of the fight, and overwhelms Shadow Mario. This episode is so ******* GOOD man, I can't believe that Death Battle cooked this hard

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

He was basically like Kaido in Wano, gotch'ya

LOL

While you're here, you mind checking out some of the recent stuff in the Lupin discussion I mentioned. It's pretty important to the verse's future here and I'd like to get as many points of views on it as possible.

 

[Fireld]

I'll try checking it out later tonight

 

[Stefano4444]

Eggman VS Bowser did not disappoint, easily their best episode of this current season so far.

I may not care that much about either Sonic and Mario, and i do think its was absolute fire.

And for the next time... yeah i guess it was going to happen eventually, just endure it and wait to see what its next.

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Ngl, it's pretty bold of the site to have an accuracy thread

Depending on what verse you are a supporter of, you could see this site as the end all be all of scaling. If the verse you support is strong, has supporter mods, upgrades go through, then you'll probably view the site more highly, so the 'accuracy thread' isn't something you bat an eye at.

Then you have those who look at that thread and go 'pfft, like you have the right'

 

[Arceus0x]

Where do you scale trainers and only trainers, not their Mons?

The trainers themselves vary a lot. Most are probably 10-A to 9-B (gym leaders casually jumping down from buildings, kids running up walls and shit like that is a common occurence) with 6-C durability cause....people just kinda live through attacks of bloodlusted pokemon somehow. It just happens because it just does. Some trainers, however, seem to be 6-C themselves by fighting pokemon in close combat like straight up. These are rare though, I can't even name a specific trainer, I just remember there being a few.

 

[Redite250]

Eggman really had that boy Infinite on fodder control and he still got neg diffed

 

[Arceus0x]

I don't care that much about either Sonic and Mario, and i do think its was fire.

Sonic vs Mario had good animation but was somehow ass with ass scaling and research. I feel like they didn't even try with it.

 

[Tipper17]

 

[DoggoTron]

I gotta say I love the appreciation Eggman gives sage and metal also holy **** metal sonic sweeps jesus if I already didn;'t love him this fight made me love him more

 

[Tipper17]

Yeah also wtf, Fall Guys Vs Amogus? Really?

I almost wanna shit on this DB just for that /s

look im being this community has bad taste
i get the appeal if it happened when both series were popular as hell but its the definition of way too late here
among us least has some form of relevance
who the **** cares about fall guys

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Wait why is Infinite on the betrayal list lol

 

[NotoriouSoda]

Death battle

Doing Mus far later when they were popular

On a serious note as someone who literally didn’t care at all for this episode, they did a pretty good job here. Who sometimes they do burn down the kitchen, death battle can also cook a five star meal.

W episode

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

I mean ngl they probably dont intend base characters scale to those feats.

They still scale.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Wait why is Infinite on the betrayal list lol

Infinite is so fodder that Eggman considered his constant failure a betrayal

 

[Chianli]

I feel like this DB episode is the most accucary one in awhile imo, I might not know which one is, but I do feel like this one is researched pretty well.

Though some sonic debaters aren't to happy because causual will be confused...

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

Well at least Bowser is no longer 0-1.

 

[Epiccheev]

King Boo packed up Infinite with a SINGLE WHOMP.

That's why you don't turn off your "Boo-Whomp" inhibitors

 

[TMaakkonen]

They still scale.

Yeah but people dont want Tier 2 base Sonic cast so it doesnt matter :V

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

I mean ngl they probably dont intend base characters scale to those feats.

In fairness: they also say that Sonic characters don't grow in strength, yet recent games like Shadow Generations have Shadow overpowering Metal Ovelord when the latter was someone who fought against Super Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles in Sonic Heroes. So I think there's a big disconnect with author's intent vs what's actually depicted on screen.

 

[Arceus0x]

It feels like DB finally lifted the inhibitors of only marvel ever getting 2-A scaling and are being more generous with the tier 2 ratings now. I kinda like it, still fear the fact that they'll probably scale Godzilla Ultima to universe level and ignore his higher dimensionality despite the point of the series being that he is higher dimensional.

 

[RanHover60]

look im being this community has bad taste
i get the appeal if it happened when both series were popular as hell but its the definition of way too late here
among us least has some form of relevance
who the **** cares about fall guys

“Better late than never” ahh matchup

 

[Arceus0x]

“Better late than never” ahh matchup

Internet explorer ahh matchup

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Bowser and Eggman got treated very well compared to their previous episodes. Granted, that's a high bar considering their previous episodes were Bowser vs Ganon and Eggman vs Wily (that one mostly suffered from being a season one episode).

 

[Tipper17]

It feels like DB finally lifted the inhibitors of only marvel ever getting 2-A scaling and are being more generous with the tier 2 ratings now. I kinda like it, still fear the fact that they'll probably scale Godzilla Ultima to universe level and ignore his higher dimensionality despite the point of the series being that he is higher dimensional.

that type of slop needs to be digestible

 

[Tipper17]

Bowser and Eggman got treated very well compared to their previous episodes. Granted, that's a high bar considering their previous episodes were Bowser vs Ganon and Eggman vs Wily (that one mostly suffered from being a season one episode).

i honeslty say the latter holds up despite being a s1 episode

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Arceus0x]

that type of slop needs to be digestible

ik but I'm just worried that they'll take the one character who is specifically tailor made by an actual mathematician to be higher dimensional and say "1x universe level, take it or leave it"

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

i honeslty say the latter holds up despite being a s1 episode

That's fair.

 

[NotoriouSoda]

Internet explorer ahh matchup

how do you do fellow kids ahh matchup

 

[TMaakkonen]

“Better late than never” ahh matchup

Not as late as ColeAlex thankfully.

In fairness: they also say that Sonic characters don't grow in strength, yet recent games like Shadow Generations have Shadow overpowering Metal Ovelord when the latter was someone who fought against Super Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles in Sonic Heroes. So I think there's a big disconnect with author's intent vs what's actually depicted on screen.

Ngl, I do feel like Doom powers amped Shadow as well, and they got rid of them.

And now that time is fitting ig, I do agree Sonic has scaling problem after few years looking at it. IDW feats are significantly worse than Game feat scaling, the disperancy isnt good. If this continues its going to be even worse. Sonic never makes a dent anywhere meanwhile Shadow gets to wallop Metal ******* Overlord lol