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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Executor_N0 said:
The notion that you can just ignore something that happened without any care about it as an "outlier" is one of the many things VS Debating took from science that if you were to apply to science, you would be laughed at. (Like, one of the many things you do with outliers is try to explain how it happened, how it ended up on your sample to begin it, and find a source for it, while here Outliers just exist to be ignored as if they never existed).
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I mean, reality has the advantage of being, ya' know, real. Even errors are things that really exist. The faulty lab equipment, miscalculations, and artefacts you didn't account for are all real things that can be tracked down.

In fiction though, when a writer or artist shows a character blowing up a planet with a punch in one panel, then shows them getting knocked out by tripping at another point, that's not real. There's nothing that can rectify the contradiction, no unifying interpretation of the story's reality that accounts for all the seeming problems. At a certain point, especially with large, fantastic, long-running stories, you have to simply choose one interpretation and run with it.

Point is, you need a unifying standard of interpretation. The point of all this is to debate who wins in a fight, but we need a discrete vision of what the characters are like, and are capable of in order to do that, and in order to get such a vision, we need one standard of interpretation for fantasy fiction power-scaling which, even if doesn't give strictly "true" results (whatever that may mean in a fiction context), does give "fair" ones.

That's why we need a concept for "outliers" that has no real connection to reality.
 
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Stay loyal to the Eggman Empire! We have more at stake, don't let the Doomers and the false flags of Bowser take away what matters - the future!
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:


God, I really have high hopes that this episode will be an absolute banger. And I don't mind Bowser winning, because as long as it's through logical reasons and everything else slaps hard then I'll be happy.
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Okay, just for the hell of it, what would be the most upsetting arguments that they could bring up to make either Eggman or Bowser lose? Stuff like the super lava or the raddish.
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
In fairness: Dyspo is a character who's so quick that not even Zeno, a character who's attacks can destroy the cosmology in mere moments and could perceive Goku's fight with Hit, can keep track of his speed.

Now that's not me saying Dyspo is faster than GoDs or Angels obviously, but what I'm saying is that Dyspo's speed is nothing to scoff at.
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Well you can argue that some characters are faster than arale but this site doesn't do that.
 
TartaChocholate said:
Okay, just for the hell of it, what would be the most upsetting arguments that they could bring up to make either Eggman or Bowser lose? Stuff like the super lava or the raddish.
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An easy answer: I'd be extremely pissed if they limited Eggman to Universal while Bowser gets Multiversal scaling.

The Time Eater has its own multiversal scaling and Eggman has a few mechs and power ups to contend with Post 06 Super Sonic. Bare minimum, Bowser and Eggman should be in the same tier regardless if they want to say Bowser is more powerful in said tier.
 
Starsprite53 said:
I swear someday I will admit that I will take scaling to Solaris over multiversal Time Eater
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So you disagree with the Time Eater being Multiversal? Not to judge you or anything like that, I'm just curious to learn your reasoning for this if you'd be okay with sharing your reasons.

But I guess scaling to Solaris would work as well, though I just realized that machines like the Egg Salamander and Egg Wizard would be decent options to get Eggman to that level in my opinion.
 
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